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Old 12-06-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
I just did.
No, you did not mention a single thing about the allegations in the case. All you did was list some irrelevant information. What you said was akin to saying something like, 'Massachusetts is a liberal democratic stronghold, therefore any fraud that happens there must be done by democrats.' That's about the most irrelevant and illogical reasoning anyone could come up with to try to explain away the allegations.

 
Old 12-06-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Let's recap, about this voter fraud thing.

  • Democrats can't win districts in NC. District 9 was drawn by them.
  • Democrats file lawsuit to change districts.
  • District 9 changed so Democrat can win it.
  • Democrats spend 6X - 60x the amount to win this district, than spent on any other district in NC.
  • Democrats lose election.
  • Now we have accusations by Democrats, that election has fraud.
  • But Democrats simultaneously say that VoterID isn't needed in NC because no fraud has ever been found.
Has to be seen to be believed. There's your typical Democrats as usual.
Let me help you. The Republicans gerrymandered the districts.

The party affiliation in NC breaks down as Democrats, Unaffiliated(Independent), Republican, in that order.

The NAACP took the Republicans to court & the Republicans were forced to fix the racial problems.

After Wisconsin went to federal court about extreme gerrymandering, NC went to federal court about it. Federal court ordered the districting to be redrawn. The Republicans whined that it was too close to the election. They were allowed to wait. They are supposed to be redrawing the districts now. They are not. I can't wait for the judges to surprise the Republicans with a brand new set of districts, like the judges did in Pennsylvania.

District 9 is still gerrymandered. Just like my district is still gerrymandered.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Let's recap, about this voter fraud thing.

  • Democrats can't win districts in NC. District 9 was drawn by them.
  • Democrats file lawsuit to change districts.
  • District 9 changed so Democrat can win it.
  • Democrats spend 6X - 60x the amount to win this district, than spent on any other district in NC.
  • Democrats lose election.
  • Now we have accusations by Democrats, that election has fraud.
  • But Democrats simultaneously say that VoterID isn't needed in NC because no fraud has ever been found.
Has to be seen to be believed. There's your typical Democrats as usual.


Waldo, why are you LYING??

District 9 wasn't drawn by the Democrats, it was drawn by the Republicans.

The courts ordered some districts in North Carolina to be redrawn due to packing. The Republicans then redrew the districts. The changes in the 9th was relatively small.

The ninth has been in Republican hands for 40 years and the current version was drawn by the GOP legislature. Stop lying
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Smash255 View Post
Waldo, why are you LYING??

District 9 wasn't drawn by the Democrats, it was drawn by the Republicans.

The courts ordered some districts in North Carolina to be redrawn due to packing. The Republicans then redrew the districts. The changes in the 9th was relatively small.

The ninth has been in Republican hands for 40 years and the current version was drawn by the GOP legislature. Stop lying

The current version was the same since 2010 until the the courts ordered it redrawn as it is now. Who controlled the NC GA then?


Maybe you mistakenly think the NC GA has always been controlled by the GOP. Calling me a liar, based on your bad assumptions is your issue.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The current version was the same since 2010 until the the courts ordered it redrawn as it is now. Who controlled the NC GA then?


Maybe you mistakenly think the NC GA has always been controlled by the GOP. Calling me a liar, based on your bad assumptions is your issue.
I called you a liar because you said the district was gereyrmandred by the Democrats. It's not, it was drawn by the Republicans, they controlled Redistricting following the 2010 census.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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I called you a liar because you said the district was gereyrmandred by the Democrats. It's not, it was drawn by the Republicans, they controlled Redistricting following the 2010 census.
This shows the district drawn by the Democrats.
https://ballotpedia.org/File:NCCongExisting.jpg

This shows it after the 2010 census.

https://ballotpedia.org/File:NCCongExisting.jpg

This shows it after the Democrat lawsuit

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...017%29.tif.png

This speak for itself. The original district was created by the Democrats and changed little by the Republicans. It wasn't until the lawsuit that we have the mess that exists now.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
This shows the district drawn by the Democrats.
https://ballotpedia.org/File:NCCongExisting.jpg

This shows it after the 2010 census.

https://ballotpedia.org/File:NCCongExisting.jpg

This shows it after the Democrat lawsuit

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...017%29.tif.png

This speak for itself. The original district was created by the Democrats and changed little by the Republicans. It wasn't until the lawsuit that we have the mess that exists now.

The GOP drew the maps in 2010..
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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WaldoKitty is in denial.
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Drank the kool aid & is now in pain.
Pretzel mode.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:26 PM
 
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The GOP drew the maps in 2010..
Based on a map drawn by the Democrats in 2000. Which, BTW was also changed by lawsuit.



Those maps speak for themselves. District 9 was not gerrymandered by the Republicans. It was drawn by Democrats. I live here. I know exactly how it went down.
 
Old 12-06-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Based on a map drawn by the Democrats in 2000. Which, BTW was also changed by lawsuit.



Those maps speak for themselves. District 9 was not gerrymandered by the Republicans. It was drawn by Democrats. I live here. I know exactly how it went down.
Shrug. That's beside the point. The point is that the bipartisan NCBOE is refusing to certify the election because they suspect that someone has gamed the absentee ballots. So far, you haven't said anything at all in this thread that bears directly on that.
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