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Old 06-30-2008, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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You think that Clark does this on his own. Obama threw Clark under the bus today, and now the Republicans have picked up on this pattern. So Obama has folks do the dirty work and then Obama pretends to be above the fray.

Obama looks like a typical politician to me, I don't see him as an agent of change.
And......you still haven't answered the topic.

http://www.nwce.gov.uk/bank_images/spinning_top.JPG (broken link)
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Clark did not say to discount John McCain's military experience. When asked if Sen MCCain was a hero, he intimated that POW status does not automatically qualify one for President.
You are wrong, go back and look at the interview. He discounted the organization McCain headed as not being a combat oriented unit.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification for President" - General Wesley Clark, Retired General,
You are quoting "Lefty the Loser" Clark, who would sell his soul to the devil for a job. He wants to be VP, but he blew that chance with his attempt to blast a war hero. Good old Lefty Clark is so far to the left, he is about to fall off the earth.
Find someone creditable to quote, if you want credibility...
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Does POW status preclude one as a foreign policy expert?
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:24 PM
 
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You are quoting "Lefty the Loser" Clark, who would sell his soul to the devil for a job. He wants to be VP, but he blew that chance with his attempt to blast a war hero. Good old Lefty Clark is so far to the left, he is about to fall off the earth.
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Thats why I posted the Tail Hook link. Dick Cheney as Secretary of Defense sold out some outstanding servicemen and ruined their careers and he got to be Vice President.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Does POW status preclude one as a foreign policy expert?
The spectrum of his military service is part of his overall leadership resume. His behavior while a POW is part of this resume.

And certainly not a vulnerability the opposition will be able to use against him.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:29 PM
 
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You are wrong, go back and look at the interview. He discounted the organization McCain headed as not being a combat oriented unit.
He stated a fact that Sen McCain did not ever head a combat unit. I do not think that he discounted a thing, he stated a fact. The fact is that John McCain never made a battle plan or sent men and women to battle. He had a state side training command as an injured person would.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I respect Clark for bringing it up. "POW" is sacred territory that a civilian could not comment upon without getting excoriated. But the point is valid. Gutsy POW a half century ago has no relevance on Mccain's qualifications as a worthy President today, as sexy as it looks on his resume. Which let's be honest is the only thing that stands out at all.
Obama may not have executive credentials either but at least he does have some history of consensus building and will be much more effective at forging lasting international relationships in the dangerous world we find ourselves in today.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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You are quoting "Lefty the Loser" Clark, who would sell his soul to the devil for a job. He wants to be VP, but he blew that chance with his attempt to blast a war hero. Good old Lefty Clark is so far to the left, he is about to fall off the earth.
Find someone creditable to quote, if you want credibility...
I seek no credibility that man can provide. Indeed if this is your inner motivation, perhaps you care to expound on the topic. It appears simple; however, as of yet none has managed to directly allay the concerns mentioned thus far. Personally I thought this topic would have been proven and done. We await your discourse.

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Old 06-30-2008, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I'm certain none of us care what your personal judgment regarding General Clark's honesty, judgment, or sanity, is. It is irrelevant on it's face and careless in retrospect.
What you fail to realize is Clark's hypocrisy. If Kerry was everything a commander in chief should be, so says Clark, McCain trumps that by a long shot. He applauded Kerry's service in wartime, his leadership, his bravery and courage - all things Clark thought qualified Kerry to be CIC.

So...when he says McCain's service does not necessarily qualify him for CIC, that can only lead reasonable people to the truth. He's just a minion of Obama's and will say anything to minimize the enormous advantage McCain has over Obama in this department.

In addition to his military service, his years of service in the Senate will serve him well.

The Naval Academy; One of the country's most elite institutions - That grooms future cadets in among other things - leadership.
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