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Old 10-08-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Let's not mention another leak in the Russian part of the ISS.

They're going to have a hard time competing with SpaceX in the commercial market. There will always be defense needs but without commercial launches, or any probes going to other planets like the rest of the world is doing, the prestige is gone.
Do not worry. Your next station at the Moon will be without Russians and their leaks. Life will be wonderful.
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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Do not worry. Your next station at the Moon will be without Russians and their leaks. Life will be wonderful.

I would actually keep Russian space cooperation open with the US. One day, Putin will die. Its better to keep lines open with the russian youth. Its the one area where the US and Russia work well together...sort of.





ALso, russia will eventually need help in containing China once they start to retake the Russian far east. So its best to keep some type of diplomacy open.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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I would actually keep Russian space cooperation open with the US. One day, Putin will die. Its better to keep lines open with the russian youth. Its the one area where the US and Russia work well together...sort of.
Someday, Putin will die, of course. Everyone will die. But I am afraid that this will not change American diplomacy. And Russian youth will grow up and understand that the United States is not an ally for Russia, but a geopolitical adversary.
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Old 10-08-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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Someday, Putin will die, of course. Everyone will die. But I am afraid that this will not change American diplomacy. And Russian youth will grow up and understand that the United States is not an ally for Russia, but a geopolitical adversary.

US only wants the Europe, the meditarrean, and the black sea secured and finish what trajan and caesar started. Probably, want to take all your oil too.



Right now, it seems MAGA wants to be your ally.



For Russian youth, China will be your geopolitical adversary. They not only want your resources but your land as well. Turkey seems to be poking your jihad underbelly.



Bear and the dragon.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:08 PM
 
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Do not worry. Your next station at the Moon will be without Russians and their leaks. Life will be wonderful.
Only they will have to somehow do without the Russian space toilet.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:22 PM
 
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US only wants the Europe, the meditarrean, and the black sea secured and finish what trajan and caesar started. Probably, want to take all your oil too.

Right now, it seems MAGA wants to be your ally.

For Russian youth, China will be your geopolitical adversary. They not only want your resources but your land as well. Turkey seems to be poking your jihad underbelly.



Bear and the dragon.
I don't understand why America is constantly poking its nose into other people's affairs and trying to "protect" everyone !?

What, by and large, does she care about the Black Sea? Does she border on him? No.

Or the Mediterranean Sea wash her shores? No.

It's just that America imagines itself the navel of the earth, and constantly interferes in the affairs of others when not asked to her. America just needs to stop meddling in other states affairs, and take up closely their own problems, which have accumulated above the roof. And then the world will become much calmer and safer.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:39 PM
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I don't understand why America is constantly poking its nose into other people's affairs and trying to "protect" everyone !?

What, by and large, does she care about the Black Sea? Does she border on him? No.

Or the Mediterranean Sea wash her shores? No.

It's just that America imagines itself the navel of the earth, and constantly interferes in the affairs of others when not asked to her. America just needs to stop meddling in other states affairs, and take up closely their own problems, which have accumulated above the roof. And then the world will become much calmer and safer.
We decided it is in our security interest to defend democratic states in Europe and not let them get back into a scenario like they went through in the last century... That's the backbone of NATO (and the key requirement for joining). It isn't a perfect system (see Turkey), but that's why we "poke our nose" in Russia's neighborhood. Autocrat propaganda always says otherwise, but that's the reason. Yes we defend autocrat allies too, yes we get involved in the middle east in a myriad of ways, but that's outside of the reason we get involved in your neighborhood. Let me repeat, it is in our long term security interest to prevent (Russian backed) autocrats overtake the will of the people in a democratic European state. This includes Ukraine. What the Soviets did to eastern europe after WW2 is not forgotten.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:02 PM
 
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We decided it is in our security interest to defend democratic states in Europe and not let them get back into a scenario like they went through in the last century... That's the backbone of NATO (and the key requirement for joining). It isn't a perfect system (see Turkey), but that's why we "poke our nose" in Russia's neighborhood. Autocrat propaganda always says otherwise, but that's the reason. Yes we defend autocrat allies too, yes we get involved in the middle east in a myriad of ways, but that's outside of the reason we get involved in your neighborhood. Let me repeat, it is in our long term security interest to prevent (Russian backed) autocrats overtake the will of the people in a democratic European state. This includes Ukraine. What the Soviets did to eastern europe after WW2 is not forgotten.
So you protect your mainland and stay out of Europe. We'll sort this out ourselves without you.

If Western capitalism had behaved a little more modestly, there would not have been a WW2.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:07 PM
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So you protect your mainland and stay out of Europe. We'll sort this out ourselves without you.

If Western capitalism had behaved a little more modestly, there would not have been a WW2.
No, we aren't going to leave. Those are people just like us, living in the free world. You can't have it back. Not Tallinn, not Warsaw, not Budapest and not Kiev.
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Old 10-08-2020, 10:11 PM
 
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I don't understand why America is constantly poking its nose into other people's affairs and trying to "protect" everyone !?

What, by and large, does she care about the Black Sea? Does she border on him? No.

Or the Mediterranean Sea wash her shores? No.

It's just that America imagines itself the navel of the earth, and constantly interferes in the affairs of others when not asked to her. America just needs to stop meddling in other states affairs, and take up closely their own problems, which have accumulated above the roof. And then the world will become much calmer and safer.

Its about money and market access. 1776 was all about trade and money. Adam smith. This is was you do not understand. Its about money. You need to watch Scarface.

Black sea probably has natural gas. With control of the Black sea, we can also build an oil pipeline to bypass russia and putin's control.


It seems that Putin has failed to turn Edrogan so Black sea is just a lake just like the baltic sea.


Like the romans, the mediterranean sea, is ours, Mare Nostrum. Everything that was Rome was ours. No one counts Byzantium and 2 headed dragon that stands for the church and state.





THe world would be worse without america. SOviet union was stagant because it did not allow the free exchange of ideas. the islamic world is backwards and stuck in the dark ages. CHina learned from the soviets fall but they rule with fear and are orwellian robots. plus, they eat anything that turns its back to heaven and cause pandemics. THey need to be contained just like the soviets. Nothing but trouble makers.



Russia has lower birth rate and population compared. This will make holding the russian far east impossible. China plans for 100 years and are already infiltrating through immigration to the far east due to the lack of labor there.



Plus, no one wants to speak russian or chinese. Its easier to speak english and you're already speaking it. You probably wear jeans too, drink coke, and eat mcdonalds in russia.


WHat does russia export that I want? Maybe an Ak? Serbs make better russian weapons. Caviar is expensive. Other countries make vodka. You don't let your scientists profit from their discoveries because you're paranoid it will overthrow the state. You let your space program go to crap. When you switched to communism, you went from agriculture exporter to importer. RUssia is the biggest country in the world with a ton of resources. You should techinically be richer than the whole world. You have bad management. Putin had his time. He stablised the wild west russia. After that, he should trained someone else and moved along. Now he's going to end up like Mugabe or the russian mafia is going to kill him. No one is going to invade except China after the Russian population decline.



Peter and catherine the great tried to gentrify and civilize you but you wouldn't listen to the values of the enlightenment. You still had the mongolian in you since subadai invaded.


Also, the US and NATO keeps germany from invading and raping you again. NATO actually keeps russia safe and secure.

And it was Putin who caused the break up of slavic brotherhood. Not the US. THis is why you are losing Ukraine and its also the reason you are losing Belarus. You can use all the force you want with little green men. NATO and the US does not even have to lift a finger. They can sit back watch as Putin makes bad foreign policy moves. So much for the famed KGB strategy. People want to live the way they want to live and not through fear and authoritarianism.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/olympi...nishes-report/


You have donald trump in office and you can't even retake eastern europe. He'd practically give it to Putin. **** poor planning.


You can't even keep armenia and azerbaijan under control and they are tiny. What kind of world power is russia now? poor management.



Bear and the dragon

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