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Ehh, no pilot error doesn't "seem" to be the cause as the cause is unknown. But the captain said it was lightning. You may be confused with the Soviet style "news" reporting where a criminal case is opened against the pilots and suggestions on TV that it was human error to reassure the public that the Russian plane doesn't have issues. This is going to be a problem now with Russia not wanting to admit any problems with its airplanes vs. a distrustful public there that will demand their grounding.
Many, if not most have been grounded.
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The plane would have never been certified by the EASA if it wasn't a good aircraft. However, a good aircraft should not be disabled by lightning. But we also don't know that it was disabled or just had a minor issue and they landed with too full of fuel, which would be pilot error.
Or had no choice but to land when they did.
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And if you want to get technical, it no longer has a better record than the MAX. It has a higher ratio of crashes vs. flights...
It hasn't killed as many people as the 787 Maxx has. There's also some tasty details concerning the management when it comes to the 787 Maxx too. I think they put PROFIT before SAFETY. I know the airlines did in this situation. Safety equipment IS NOT OPTIONAL. I don't care what the CEOs say.
Ehh, no pilot error doesn't "seem" to be the cause as the cause is unknown.
Yea, the term "seems" implies the official cause is unknown, thought this would be obvious.
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But the captain said it was lightning. You may be confused with the Soviet style "news" reporting where a criminal case is opened against the pilots and suggestions on TV that it was human error to reassure the public that the Russian plane doesn't have issues. This is going to be a problem now with Russia not wanting to admit any problems with its airplanes vs. a distrustful public there that will demand their grounding.
Not confusing anything. So far the news says the plane was struck and so far no reports of an operational issue. The pilot decided to return due to the radio. The plane did not dump the fuel, thus came in quite heavy, changing the landing characteristics, the gear collapse, wing broke spilling fuel along with everything started the fire. Just speculation, nothing to do with your "Soviet news source", whatever in the hell that suppose to mean. I have heard nothing regarding the pilots.
People on forums always speculate and discuss, it is not unique to just this event, go browse the aviation forum for examples.
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The plane would have never been certified by the EASA if it wasn't a good aircraft. However, a good aircraft should not be disabled by lightning. But we also don't know that it was disabled or just had a minor issue and they landed with too full of fuel, which would be pilot error.
So far no word if the strike caused any issue with control of the plane. Still would not explain the lack of dumping fuel unless that was part of the issues from the strike.
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And if you want to get technical, it no longer has a better record than the MAX. It has a higher ratio of crashes vs. flights...
Two hull losses versus two hull losses, but the MAX has more casualties. Have not broken down by flight hours. But point was not that as so much the claim from the poster about the SSJ-100, was just countering with a quick example from another aircraft and a rather reputable company.
Putin has more than one. The one pictured is a TU-214 PU, a military surveilance/elint aircraft. He may fly on it too.
The official Russian presidential plane is an IL-96. Recent US presidents have flown on aircraft other than the 747, usually the 757, but that does not mean the 747 is not the official US presidential aircraft.
Tu 214 and Il 96 is ex USSR made reliable jetliners.
The superjet SSJ 100 showed that the Russians cannot build good liners due to corruption, the loss of the engineering school and general sloppiness.
Well,well.. Tell me how many aircraft built since 2016 in the "great not-corrupt aviation power,with genius engineers"...which the whole world knows as Ukraine? ZERO. You've ruined everything in your country and still you teach others how to live...
Yes, forgot to ask... How does your enlightened mind estimate the falls of 737 MAX? It is also corruption, the loss of the engineering school and general sloppiness? Or "Ah, that's just ..coincidence of circumstances"?
Former Minister of Economy of Ukraine Viktor Suslov on the TV channel NewsOne said that Russia was able to create a number of industries in the military-industrial complex due to the termination of military-technical cooperation with the Ukrainian side. “Let's say the refusal to supply engines for helicopters - this should have ruined the whole industry, but in fact Russia created its own industry for the production of helicopter engines,” he said.
According to him, Kiev’s refusal to supply power plants for warships to Russia was to “lash out all fleet construction in Russia.” The former minister stressed that in the end, such a decision only delayed the delivery of ships for "a year or two" and Russia created its own engine production.
At the same time, Suslov believes that the Russian side has spent "tremendous efforts to compensate for this."
“And they were able to do it, but we could not,” he said.
Earlier, Ukraine estimated the damage from the decline in trade with Russia.
Well,well.. Tell me how many aircraft built since 2016 in the "great not-corrupt aviation power,with genius engineers"...which the whole world knows as Ukraine? ZERO. You've ruined everything in your country and still you teach others how to live...
The only thing ruined was the supply chain which it used to source parts from Russia. It will take years to replace the former Russian made parts that went into them.
Meanwhile the MC-21 is only what about 10 years behind schedule? It took them only 12 years to make a copy of the 757 with "western" engines and avionics. I'm sure someday people will line up to buy it.
Well,well.. Tell me how many aircraft built since 2016 in the "great not-corrupt aviation power,with genius engineers"...which the whole world knows as Ukraine? ZERO. You've ruined everything in your country and still you teach others how to live...
Yes, forgot to ask... How does your enlightened mind estimate the falls of 737 MAX? It is also corruption, the loss of the engineering school and general sloppiness? Or "Ah, that's just ..coincidence of circumstances"?
The same in Ukraine.
But AN is more fidelie aircraft still but another type.
And why you are talking about Ukraine?
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