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Old 07-29-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Why should I ask an emigrant who escaped from Russia, if it is better to ask the residents of the temporarily occupied Crimea?



Do not sweam after the parade - the ships dropped fuel oil into the sea.




Three russian mercs killed when trying to seize oil fields north of Palmyra (Syria)

https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles...406-bez-schita (rus)
"Russia says that the US has built up several “large armed formations” including a “Army of Arab Tribes.” They are “airlifted beyond the Euphrates river,” the Russians claim, asserting that the US trains fighters in Tanf and moves them elsewhere. “The most trained saboteurs are delivered to the territories controlled by the government troops to destabilize the situation and prevent the strengthening of the Syrian government.” Russia claims that the US-training fighters also harm Syrian regime oil and gas infrastructure and “conduct terrorist attacks.” Russia says the groups have been seen in “communities of al-Suwayda, Palmyra and Abu Kamal.” The reference to Suwayda is not accidental, there have been incidents in the area after ISIS was defeated, and it appears the Syrian regime would prefer to blame the US than local extremists."

Russia slams US for fielding mercenary armies in Syria

It's been obvious for years that the terrorist groups fighting in the field have been receiving professional military training, technology for command, control, and communications, and assistance in leadership and battle field intelligence in the form of embedded special ops and special forces officers.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:10 PM
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Ukrainians in Kyiv hanging out this weekend enjoying a free public concert talking about the changes they expect from their new government....contrast with turmoil in Moscow with young Russians taking a bat to the head for demanding the right to have a free election. Don't they know? Its hopeless to have this idea. The Russians can only enslave themselves while they desire to enslave others.
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:13 PM
 
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Navalny (russian opposition leader) is poisoned by unknown poison from FSB lab!
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Its not true!
You live in an amazing fairy world.
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Old 07-29-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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Ukrainians in Kyiv hanging out this weekend enjoying a free public concert talking about the changes they expect from their new government....contrast with turmoil in Moscow with young Russians taking a bat to the head for demanding the right to have a free election. Don't they know? Its hopeless to have this idea. The Russians can only enslave themselves while they desire to enslave others.
Do you really believe in what you write? I thought you were older.

Horrible Russians. They do not even confiscate phones when detaining activists.

https://i.ibb.co/9t9N6LZ/photo-2019-07-27-20-16-25.jpg
And the saddest thing is that some of these young fools will get real prison sentences and ruin their lives.
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Old 07-29-2019, 07:37 PM
DKM
 
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Do i believe the videos that show Putin's NatsGuard beating people with bats on the head? Yes I do. Does a picture of some guys in a van refute the videos showing this? No. Unsurprising to see Russians (mostly older) will support their government that beats up youths for demanding government accountability.

It is sad that "real prison" and ruining lives is threatened to young people who just want free elections. We all know Russia has little to offer the world except to help other autocrats stay in power through force.
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:49 PM
 
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Ukrainians in Kyiv hanging out this weekend enjoying a free public concert talking about the changes they expect from their new government....contrast with turmoil in Moscow with young Russians taking a bat to the head for demanding the right to have a free election. Don't they know? Its hopeless to have this idea. The Russians can only enslave themselves while they desire to enslave others.

The reason that "Russian opposition" ( the kind US gov. supports) doesn't have any chance in Russia, is because Americans can't use right wing people to fight the current Putin's regime, that is already staunchly RIGHT wing.

It can be only undermined with the help of the LEFT wing opposition, but we already know that American Dems will not go for that, and neither will Republicans for obvious reasons.
Europeans however ( being older and wiser) are probably finally figuring things out.


ECHR to proceed with Russian opposition politician


P.S. As for "Ukrainians hanging out this week-end and talking about changes they expect" - it's probably time for them to stop talking and to start paying CLOSE ATTENTION, what their new government is up to.

So I will make a new post specifically for UKRAINIANS on THEIR thread about that, so that they wouldn't be up to a rude awakening later on, as it was with their previous government, elected ( or rather appointed by Americans) after the "Revolution of dignity."

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Old 07-29-2019, 09:30 PM
 
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Do i believe the videos that show Putin's NatsGuard beating people with bats on the head? Yes I do. Does a picture of some guys in a van refute the videos showing this? No. Unsurprising to see Russians (mostly older) will support their government that beats up youths for demanding government accountability.

It is sad that "real prison" and ruining lives is threatened to young people who just want free elections. We all know Russia has little to offer the world except to help other autocrats stay in power through force.
Ahahahahahaha!!!
Every time I read your posts, I break my stomach with laughter. At first I tried to take them seriously, but then I came to the conclusion that you are either an ordinary troll using double standards, or your brain is clogged up to the brim of western and russian liberal propaganda. Most of these so-called “fighters against the regime†and the whole this “non-systemic opposition†never held anything heavier than a spoon in their hands. They only know how to lie on the couch all day, to scratch their stomach, drink “smoothies†(I hate this nasty word) and publish nonsense on their blogs, presenting yourself Greats, from which everyone should shiver and fall down. And for all this, money is dripping yet from the State Department. Beauty. It’s time to collect all of them and send them to build factories, they scream so much that the damned Putin ruined everything, so let them now restore everything. Or send them to Siberia, let them extinguish fires better, then they will be 1000 times more useful.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ibYWyYi7sg



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TV host Tim Kirby commented on the situation with the fact that at an unsanctioned rally in Moscow, protesters behaved aggressively towards law enforcement officers. Recall that Kirby is an American who came to Russia and remained here to live and work.

“If this happened in the United States, aggressive protesters would get rubber bullets, at most, they would get real bullets,†says Kirby, stressing that no one would swing a baton at a distance, hold back and stand on ceremony in general, like ours.

On the question of why our police do not use gas or water cannons, as in "civilized countries," the expert responds that "if they make at least one mistake, the whole world will see this mistake, turn it over, exaggerate."

“And the country of the Gulag will begin again in the heads of strangers,†explains Kirby. “This is all, how to say, a PR course of a certain image. They have to be very gentle and tidy. Because otherwise it will be bad for the state."

He proposes: "Imagine that they are marching towards you on the march. It is your task as police to protect buildings. Or to protect order." Power effects, according to the expert, are inevitable in any country.

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Old 07-30-2019, 01:28 AM
 
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Special for you, DKM...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWgWTnI2LZo
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:48 AM
 
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Do i believe the videos that show Putin's NatsGuard beating people with bats on the head? Yes I do. Does a picture of some guys in a van refute the videos showing this? No. Unsurprising to see Russians (mostly older) will support their government that beats up youths for demanding government accountability.

It is sad that "real prison" and ruining lives is threatened to young people who just want free elections. We all know Russia has little to offer the world except to help other autocrats stay in power through force.

Some people will be arrested for police attacks (they threw trash cans and water bottles at police officers). This is up to 3 years in prison.


And I do not understand this "they want free elections." There are enough methods in Russia for legal ways to achieve this. But they went to a banned rally. They threw bottles at the cops. What for? Can this change something? Not. They will not achieve anything, except for another tub of **** poured on Russia by "Western partners." These protesters are just stupid puppets in hands of big players. The history of Russia has an example of the successful work of revolutionaries. But these fools in the square can not be compared with the ideas and methods of the Bolsheviks. And in any case, revolutionaries always drop a country into civil war. I don't see any reason to support them.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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Original proposal for Eastern and Central Europe was to become a demilitarized zone as buffer between NATO and the former Soviet Union, which was quickly rejected by he U.S.

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Although the main focus of this article is the Clinton era, it is essential to understand the legacy bequeathed to President Clinton and his administration by the previous administration as a result of the decisions that President Bush made following the surprise fall of the Berlin Wall.11 A number of European actors, including both former East European dissidents and Western leaders, proposed new alternatives for their countries' future security after the opening of the Wall—all of them anathema to Washington. Among the worst alternatives from the U.S. point of view was a proposal by former peace activists who had helped to end Soviet domination of their homelands. They called for Central and Eastern Europe to become a demilitarized zone and neutral buffer between East and West (although some dissidents would later change their view and support NATO enlargement to the region).12 Also worrisome was Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's interest, shared by some West European leaders, in creating a pan-European security organization, perhaps based on the existing Conference for Security and Cooperation (CSCE), which already had members from both NATO and the Warsaw Pact.13 In response, President Bush moved swiftly and assertively to ensure that NATO—and thereby U.S. leadership in Europe, given the United States' domination of the alliance—would not only survive the end of the Cold War but also shape the post–Cold War future.14 Through a series of successful diplomatic maneuvers, Bush perpetuated NATO's leading role in European security and set a precedent of acquiring new eastern territory, all without signing anything binding about the alliance's future behavior (other than on former East German soil, where there were some restrictions).

Although that outcome was always the most likely, it is worth noting that Bush's strong endorsement of this policy foreclosed other, less likely options at a very early date, thus blocking or eliminating alternative policy choices for transatlantic security well before Clinton became president. In other words, the Bush administration performed the first “ratcheting down” of options, a process not without its costs. It raised the question, controversial to this day, of whether the Bush administration promised Moscow that, in exchange for tolerating the extension of NATO across a united Germany, the alliance would not seek further expansion eastward. Opinions on this topic range from absolutely not to absolutely yes.15
How to enlarge NATO
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