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Old 11-30-2014, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Russia
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True Russian also hate Putin!
You can not change commanders during the war. And who can come instead of him?
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Old 11-30-2014, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Finland
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You can not change commanders during the war. And who can come instead of him?
This is intresting, what war is going on?
Mr.Putin have told many times that Russia is not having war at Ukraine....Russian soldiers have only lost to the Ukraine and if not lost, they are on vacation (By the way, in Finland soldier is not aloud to take tank or weapons with him if he/she is going to vacation, example to the Sweden,Estonia or Canary islands...Or even just home).

Population of Russia is around 146 millions and you can not find new leader?
Wau,Mr.Putin must be quite super-hero, some what similar like in North-Korea !
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Old 11-30-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Finland
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It was necessary to ensure the safety of Leningrad, which was dangerously close to the Finnish border in case of war (in which Finland was ready to provide its territory enemies of the USSR as a springboard). It was a time of great war. Now this is not necessary, because in case of war speed nuclear attack will be more important.
Who were these enemies that would use Finland as a springboard? Sweden, France, UK?

Exactly 75 years ago on this day the Soviets bombed Helsinki, Turku and Viipuri, only civilian targets. What did this had to do with the safety of Leningrad?

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Old 11-30-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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Who thinks there is going to be conflict between Finland and Russia within the next 20 years? The Russians appear to want their territory back.
Those Commies should just go do themselves!
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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Yes, why not.
Vyborg was finnish city until SU steal it and 1918 russian soldiers were at finnish city...
Actually, it was not.
It was Swedish city, until Russia fought for it. ( Not that it didn't fight for it with Sweden
There was no such country as Finland - remember?
So what's given to someone once, can be taken away as well, when situation calls for it. And in the 1930-ies- 40ies it was definitely a case.
Learn history, do not rely on your own fantasies.

Vyborg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Actually, it was not.
It was Swedish city, until Russia fought for it. ( Not that it didn't fight for it with Sweden
There was no such country as Finland - remember?
So what's given to someone once, can be taken away as well, when situation calls for it. And in the 1930-ies- 40ies it was definitely a case.
Learn history, do not rely on your own fantasies.

Vyborg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Viipuri was a Finnish city from 1812 to 1939, and from 1941 to 1944.

For example, in 1870 the linguistic breakup was this,

Finnish: 51%
Swedish: 17%
Russian: 24%
German: 5%
Polish: 2%

It was a multicultural city, but the Finns and Swedish-speaking Finns the clear majority. Official languages in bold.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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As do Poland, Estonia, Lithuania etc. They remember when Russia defended her interests right in their countries. Not fondly, either.
Sure. As somewhere back in history those two united almost took over Russia.
But you wouldn't remember such thing, would you?
You only remember what you like to remember, but the point being - that's what it is in this world; eat or be eaten, when it comes to geopolitics.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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Viipuri was a Finnish city from 1812 to 1939, and from 1941 to 1944.

For example, in 1870 the linguistic breakup was this,

Finnish: 51%
Swedish: 17%
Russian: 24%
German: 5%
Polish: 2%

It was a multicultural city, but the Finns and Swedish-speaking Finns the clear majority. Official languages in bold.
It was. For a relatively brief period of time. But times change.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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Who were these enemies that would use Finland as a springboard? Sweden, France, UK?
Get an education.

Finland




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Bilateral relations between Finland and Germany began after the German Empire recognised the newly independent Finnish state on January 4, 1918. In the ensuing Finnish Civil War, Germany played a prominent role siding with the White Army and training Finnish Jägers.[1] In one of the decisive battles of the war, German troops took Helsinki in April 1918.[2]

During World War II, the secret protocol in Molotov-Ribbentrop pact enabled the Winter War (1939–40), a Soviet attack on Finland. Finland and Nazi Germany were "co-belligerents" against Soviet Union during Continuation War (1941–44), but a separate peace with Soviet Union led to the Finnish-German Lapland War (1944–45).

Germany was always slapping Finland around back then trying to get at the Soviets. Certain people in the Finnish ruling class wanted nothing more than to get to Red Square in Moscow. Finland was more politically unstable then and with the Nazi influence could not be trusted. The USSR asked the Finns to move back from Leningrad, they even offered other territories in exchange. The Finns refused and Russia attacked in 1939. You don't want Nazis on your doorstep.

Through the Cold War Finland maintained a policy of strict neutrality. The last decade or so Finland has had people trying to prostitute the country to the west, to make Finland and Finns take sides instead of freedom of choice. It appears to me you are of of those eager to sell your freedom.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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It really looks that Russia is not super-power, more like on same level than Noth-Korea...They do this same:We have nuclear weapons !
Mr.Putin have said few times this same and remind world that Russia have nuclear weapons and this sounds like poor,small children playing at back yard with big toy


Concerning winter war:
Stalin did Molotov–Ribbentrop contract with Hitler at 23.08.1939 and purpose of Stalin was war and expand SU to cover whole Finland, not just to remove border some miles, this is fact.
According this contract, Hitler was friend of Stalin and this leaves that enemies for Stalin were only finns...
Attack of SU was also done at the middle of Finland and Lapland, you are sayig that these areas were also issue of "Leningrad safety"?
You can fool your self with your "Safety of Leningrad" probaganda but please dont offer it to me or to others who have own brains.
So you think that "safety of Leningrad" was just a propaganda?
Really?
Mind to tell us what happened there after all, during the WWII?
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