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Old 08-03-2015, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Minsk, Belarus
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If it is a dictatorsip, then it is a benevolent one. And personally I'd rather live in a benevolent dictatorship (other examples : Portugal and Spain in the sixties/early seventies, Hungary and its "Gulaschsozialsmus in the '80s, China now-not at the time ;of mass murderer Mao-etc) than in a malevolent "democracy" (like my country today, socialist France).
What is so malevolent in your democracy?
I agree that our dictatorship in Belarus is pretty soft, it's not like Stalin or Mao Zedong. Still the economy has been recently very shaky, and in general too much depends on one person.
Another thing is that I'm not sure if we would be really better off with a "democratic" president.. Yes, the West would pat our shoulders, but would we feel some real improvement in terms of the quality of life etc..?
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Old 08-03-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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What is so malevolent in your democracy?

look the thread above : "saudi king and entourage closes beach on the Riviera" : not bad for a country where the king had his head chopped off and where the elites blabber nonstop about "the republic" and the "republican values".
Notice I didn't even speak about what happens right now in Calais.
The regime is rotten, the country is rotten :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fcZZ8qz0as
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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What is so malevolent in your democracy?

look the thread above : "saudi king and entourage closes beach on the Riviera" : not bad for a country where the king had his head chopped off and where the elites blabber nonstop about "the republic" and the "republican values".
Notice I didn't even speak about what happens right now in Calais.
The regime is rotten, the country is rotten :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fcZZ8qz0as
Moral decay everywhere, huh, no wonder you feel affinity for the repressive regimes.


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Old 08-03-2015, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Europe
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What is a surprize?)
The fact I am going to discover everything when I arrive there but I am going to search info on the internet first
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Old 08-03-2015, 11:15 AM
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If it is a dictatorsip, then it is a benevolent one. And personally I'd rather live in a benevolent dictatorship (other examples : Portugal and Spain in the sixties/early seventies, Hungary and its "Gulaschsozialsmus in the '80s, China now-not at the time ;of mass murderer Mao-etc) than in a malevolent "democracy" (like my country today, socialist France).
I really hope you're joking. If not you it just shows that you have NO idea what Portugal, Spain (or any other country under a dictatorship) was or is! I suggest you leave your boring suburb and really find out the difference between a dicatorship and a democracy.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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I would say it is not a dictatorship but an authoritarianism. The word "dictatorship" - it sounds too ambitious, it would be something like in Stalin style already. Politically perhaps Belarus resembles Ussr of 1985 but not Ussr of 1935.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:29 AM
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Democracy and good life - not the same thing.
People can live in a democracy, but to starve to death.
People can live under a dictatorship, but to live well.
Democracy does not equal good life.
True, but most people live better in democracies than in dictatorships. Also I was referring to the examples that he gave.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Minsk, Belarus
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Mixed ...
For 3 years, the country has changed dramatically. I came to almost Germany.
But I'm afraid, if the president goes, will be like in Ukraine
Well Belarusians are not Ukrainians, here people are more quiet.
but what exactly has changed for 3 years??
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Old 03-24-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I found this website. They seem to be critical of Belarus's leaders.

Belarus Digest - News and Analysis of Belarusian Politics, Economy, Human Rights and Myths

I know that Belarus makes a lot of tractors, but I haven't seen any around here. Mahindra (an Indian company) is the most popular foreign make of tractors in this area.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Default Belarusians and their neighbours

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Well Belarusians are not Ukrainians, here people are more quiet.
but what exactly has changed for 3 years??
Belarus has close economic relations with Russia and Ukraine. That's why economy downturn in these two countries caused difficulties with selling of Belorussian goods.

Some years ago I bought a monocular (х16, х25, х50) under Belorussian trade mark Yukon. It is enough cheap and very comfortable.
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