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Old 02-25-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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Liquid and food is not dangerous, but the popular ice cold beverages served with your enchiladas, pizza, fried food, chicken wings or heavy pastas are not helping your stomach digest the food.
A warm soup is fine, comforting your stomach, feels nice when eaten. But flush chicken Alfredo with an ice cold beer and all that fat turns to a stone, and actually just before that, it sticks to your stomach lining and stay there for hours... till your digestive juices return and the inside temperature gets normal for a healthy digestion.
There are plenty ICD-9 CM codes for that: lets start with 787.1/536.3/789.0 etc...
Heartburn (787.1)? Possible regardless of fluid intake with meals.

Gastroparesis (536.3--paralysis/delayed emptying of the stomach)? I see this often as a sequela of diabetes. Again, fluids with meals play no role.

Abdominal pain (789.0x)? Separate from the stomach, still not sufficient evidence or outcome of a causative link between beverages/liquids of any temperature imbibed with solid food and a definitive medical disorder. Yes, I do see the smiley for levity, but the OP brought up something that is not in evidence in any medical literature that I can see.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or difficult, but I've never observed an EGD (esophagogastroduodenoscopy) report attesting to anything remotely like the scenario you've offered, with food 'sticking' to the walls of the stomach as you describe. Digestive juices don't 'disappear' between meals, and the stomach is never completely empty, either. When the EGD provider reports findings of retained food, they're typically talking about a patient who has been NPO for >12 hours in preparation for the study, and usually a diagnosis of gastroparesis or other functional disorder is given.

With all due respect, I just don't think the subject of this thread (nor the myriad conjectures) has any correlation to scientific fact.

/my 2¢

Excellent article, I highly suggest it for anyone confused about the subject at hand, and its interesting origins:

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/i...ter-digestion/

And just for a laugh:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...cold_water.htm

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Old 02-26-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I disagree.

Drinking beverages with the meal dilutes the hydrochloric acid in your stomach and can result in GERD and heart burn.

That having been said, I always drink with my meals. Have't had any problems myself yet.

20yrsinBranson

This sounds applicable to me.
I think I've experienced both GERD and heartburn and I have always had a lot of water with meals.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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She told us that her husband never ate breakfast before a day of fishing, only drank one beer. It was my first breakfast beer.
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What was her husband's name?



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Old 02-26-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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I usually drink a good deal of water before a meal, but even during a meal, I HAVE to have some kind of cold, fruit flavored drink.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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I will have a beverage on the table with my meal but rarely will I drink more than a couple of sips while eating because I want the taste of my food to linger longer.

It's good however to have something to drink handy in case you swallowed incorrectly and need to wash something down.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Islip,NY
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I actually try and drink at least 2 32 oz mugs of water during the day so that by the time dinner comes around I am not as hungry and I don't over eat. Tried it this past week and it worked. lost 1.8 lbs. I'll have a small glass of diet pepsi with dinner though.
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Old 02-27-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Sounds like BS to me.

Drinking with my meals makes me eat less as it fills up my stomach with liquid.
Same, always feel full and bloated if I drink with my meal.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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Dunno... after reading all the plus & minuses, the goods, z bads & z uglies... if it is a proven medical facts or not....

The way I see it... I love food. My family love food.
And "drinking with a meal" do fill you up (fact)...
Works for people who wants to diet
BUT
will never work for a family like mine who focus-eat during a main mealtime & prefer to drink either long before or after a meal (so as to enjoy that meal without "blanding out" the taste of washing it down in a quick; except unless one needs that drink b/c they are choking). We do spend quite a long time eating & enjoying the family's company usually.

P.S. To add to the observation on the europe not drinking w/ a meal to make less fat people (proven fact or no)... my family as much as they love food are not fat people either.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Dunno... after reading all the plus & minuses, the goods, z bads & z uglies... if it is a proven medical facts or not....

The way I see it... I love food. My family love food.
And "drinking with a meal" do fill you up (fact)...
Works for people who wants to diet
BUT
will never work for a family like mine who focus-eat during a main mealtime & prefer to drink either long before or after a meal (so as to enjoy that meal without "blanding out" the taste of washing it down in a quick; except unless one needs that drink b/c they are choking). We do spend quite a long time eating & enjoying the family's company usually.

P.S. To add to the observation on the europe not drinking w/ a meal to make less fat people (proven fact or no)... my family as much as they love food are not fat people either.
being fat or skinny or just the ideal weight has more to do with intake of calories and out put than when we drink or eat..
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: FL
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Sorrry but this advice comes from a CA MD. Only rediculousness in living mandates comes from that state.
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