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Old 10-31-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone and he was eligible.
Some interesting discussion here: Natural-born-citizen clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vice President Al Gore wasn't born in a state either.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Neither of my sons can be President, then :-(
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Interesting. I never would have thought about that. So does that mean if you were born in Alaska or Hawaii before 1959 you can't be president? Or since they were territories were those residents considered born on American soil? What about people from Puerto Rico since they are considered American citizens? I have a whole slew of questions now. lol
It has to be a US territory in which any person is automatically a US citizen at birth. That would include any US overseas territory, and does not require "statehood". There were debates about "natural born" when John McCain was seeking the presidency, as he was born in the Canal Zone when it was US territory, before it reverted back to Panama's sovereignty, and it was generally agreed that that would quality. The US jus soli law applies to persons born on ships inside the 12-mile limit, but not further out on the high seas, even if flying the US flag. The jus soli law specifies persons born "under the jurisdiction" of the USA.

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Old 10-31-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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Maryland and New Jersey are separated by only twelve miles. The northern end of Newcastle County, Delaware, is all that divides MD and NJ.

Maine and Massachusetts are separated by only 17 miles. The eastern end of Rockingham County, NH, is all that divides ME and MA.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Maryland and New Jersey are separated by only twelve miles. The northern end of Newcastle County, Delaware, is all that divides MD and NJ.

Maine and Massachusetts are separated by only 17 miles. The eastern end of Rockingham County, NH, is all that divides ME and MA.
Good one. Thinking of some other interesting ones. Won't compete with 12 or 17 miles, but interesting because they are in big state country west of the Mississippi.

Texas and Colorado are only 34 miles apart. Same distance Texas to Kansas. This is because of the unique geography formed by the Oklahoma panhandle. Can't find an exact mileage between New Mexico and Kansas, but looks to be around 40 miles as the crow flies. That is the most oddbal to me (to keep in the theme of the thread), one wouldn't normally think of those two states being anywhere near the other one.

Other interesting tidbits from this region. Cimarron County, OK is the only county in the country to border 4 different states: Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. It is also the only county to border 5 counties from 5 different states, one from each of the aforementioned states and one in its own state. It contains the one spot in the US closest to 5 states, a spot only 7 miles from the Colorado border but equally distant to the other three at just under 27 miles. Count the state of OK as number 5 as you are already there.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:34 AM
 
Location: The City
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Good one. Thinking of some other interesting ones. Won't compete with 12 or 17 miles, but interesting because they are in big state country west of the Mississippi.

Texas and Colorado are only 34 miles apart. Same distance Texas to Kansas. This is because of the unique geography formed by the Oklahoma panhandle. Can't find an exact mileage between New Mexico and Kansas, but looks to be around 40 miles as the crow flies. That is the most oddbal to me (to keep in the theme of the thread), one wouldn't normally think of those two states being anywhere near the other one.

Other interesting tidbits from this region. Cimarron County, OK is the only county in the country to border 4 different states: Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. It is also the only county to border 5 counties from 5 different states, one from each of the aforementioned states and one in its own state. It contains the one spot in the US closest to 5 states, a spot only 7 miles from the Colorado border but equally distant to the other three at just under 27 miles. Count the state of OK as number 5 as you are already there.

Interesting. It may have been posted but there is an area of MD that is only a few miles wide with WV and PA on either side. Think a little over 3 miles as the crow flies right at about Cumberland MD

cumberland md - Google Maps


Also MD seperates VA and PA by only about 10 -12 miles or so just a little east of there. Also that area of VA is further north than Baltimore and only about 35-40 miles south of Philadelphia in terms of Latitude and is probably 50 - 60 miles north of Cape May NJ


One other sort of interesting one, The Northernmost part of WV (sliver that runs up the western portion of the PA/OH border) is only a little more than 50 miles from Canada


And one other is NJ and CT are only about 5 miles apart, seperated by NY


Also looking at NJ - the Northernmost point is as far north as Martha's Vineyard and the Southernmost point is about as far south as DC - this more speaks to the NE City configuration which is more east/west than north/south from Boston to DC

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:19 AM
 
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New York and New Hampshire are the only two states that, if "cut out" from the map, would split the lower 48 (which I guess would then be the lower 47 haha) into two separate (though very unequal in size) enclaves.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:31 AM
 
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New York and New Hampshire are the only two states that, if "cut out" from the map, would split the lower 48 (which I guess would then be the lower 47 haha) into two separate (though very unequal in size) enclaves.

PA almost would - just a few miles further south into DE and it would with another border in the NW to Canada but it does not cut the states (combined with DE or NJ it would)
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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Duluth, MN and Burlington VT are both in the same watershed, despite being on different lakes. (lake Champlain "Flows" into the St Lawrence River)
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: South St Louis
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Colorado has the highest mean elevation of any US state at 6,800 feet.
The US county with the highest mean elevation is San Juan County, CO, at 11,240 feet.

Delaware has the lowest mean elevation of any US state at 60 feet.
The US "county" with the lowest mean elevation is probably Plaquemines Parish, LA, at just 3 feet.
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