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It almost sounds like any state a person may have had bad experiences in.
I wouldn't say I had a bad experience in DFW. I simply realized after living there for a number of years that the only thing about the area that appealed to me was the cost of living. Outside of that, there really was nothing there I couldn't live without.
The heat and humidity are a beatdown, the scenery is nearly non-existent, and if you take away water your outdoor options dwindle significantly.
The only thing keeping me there was my career, and when an opportunity to change that landed in my lap I jumped on it. I don't regret the decision one iota. I do, however, regret not taking full advantage of Colorado when I lived here the first time.
There is some public transit to the local mountains. Either way to somehow insinuate people on the west coast are too poor to enjoy the natural amenities anymore than anywhere else is ridiculous.
Western cities are next to some great nature, but the city settings often are in relatively plain areas (out of practicality). For instance, LA has mountains surrounding it, but the city basin isn't as mountainous. If a person is poor and without a car, the PT has to go to those mountains, or else they are stuck.
Western cities are next to some great nature, but the city settings often are in relatively plain areas (out of practicality). For instance, LA has mountains surrounding it, but the city basin isn't as mountainous. If a person is poor and without a car, the PT has to go to those mountains, or else they are stuck.
I'm aware of that and PT does go to the mountains. This isn't really different than anywhere else either; poorer areas being away from nicer nature areas.
I'm aware of that and PT does go to the mountains. This isn't really different than anywhere else either; poorer areas being away from nicer nature areas.
And there is the answer to this thread's question.
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Cars run on gas. Gas cost money. Its amazing people don't understand that
I guess you don't live in an area with mountains or public transit but there are other ways besides a personal car to get to the mountains. Still doesn't change the fact that your statement that people along the West Coast are too poor to enjoy its natural amenities.
The west coast has the lowest quality of life in fact.
Paycheck to paycheck living, few good paying jobs (Even IT workers are struggling in San Francisco), Fiscally unsustainable government, hellish traffic, crowded schools, toll roads, rude closed minded people. No thanks.
Plus you can't enjoy the mountains or ocean if you are broke and can't afford anything.
Besides the $20-$40 in gas, mountains and the ocean are free and probably the easiest form of "fun" if you are broke.
I guess you don't live in an area with mountains or public transit but there are other ways besides a personal car to get to the mountains. Still doesn't change the fact that your statement that people along the West Coast are too poor to enjoy its natural amenities.
People who haven't lived out west must think going to the mountains or beaches is like going on vacation, something that takes extensive planning and money. I live within 3 miles of the coast, just south of LA county and I can be in a National Forest (Cleveland National Forest) in about 30 minutes. It would cost about $5 in gas to get there, then I can hike, explore, etc.
You don't have to take a bus into the hills per se. You simply go to a neighborhood with transit service that happens to be alongside a mountain or a seashore or something. Obviously that tends to be easier with seashores but plenty of hiking trails are easily busable. Or you can bike to these areas. I'm referring to LA, Seattle, Boise, San Diego, Salt Lake, Portland, etc.
I'm aware of that and PT does go to the mountains. This isn't really different than anywhere else either; poorer areas being away from nicer nature areas.
Nope, doesn't work that way in the Midwest. I am not talking really poor ghetto-like areas, but blue-collar people have excellent access to parks around here. Actually many of my favorite hiking, fishing and camping areas are surrounded by the blue-collar townships.
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