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View Poll Results: Does the West Coast offer a superior quality of life compared to the rest of America?
No, there are better places in America to live. 198 51.70%
Yes, but only if you have the money. 114 29.77%
Yes, even considering the cost of living. 71 18.54%
Voters: 383. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-18-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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I guess you don't live in an area with mountains or public transit but there are other ways besides a personal car to get to the mountains. Still doesn't change the fact that your statement that people along the West Coast are too poor to enjoy its natural amenities.
Is the PT free, and does it connect efficiently with the nature?
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:49 PM
 
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If I had enough money to have a really nice lifestyle on the West Coast, I could probably comfortably retire in Italy instead.

For everyone else, it's waiting in traffic, waiting in lines, and a never ending rat race.
It also means great vistas everywhere you look, a sizeable percentage of the most walkable non-NY neighborhoods in the US, access to many of the best jobs in the US, and living in areas that are often growing, renewing, and densifying at high rates.

Italy has lots of phenomenal places, but how would you make money?
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Is the PT free, and does it connect efficiently with the nature?
No as with most public transit there is a fare, what does that even matter? If you're too poor for a car you probably take transit regularly anyways or how else would you get around.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:54 AM
 
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No as with most public transit there is a fare, what does that even matter? If you're too poor for a car you probably take transit regularly anyways or how else would you get around.
Okay.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Chicago is the exception to the rule, like Miami is to Florida or Atlanta to Georgia.

I'm mainly talking Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa, those places all blow
With the possible exception of Iowa, I would not place any of those states in the Midwest. If anything, they are Plains states.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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With the possible exception of Iowa, I would not place any of those states in the Midwest. If anything, they are Plains states.
Midwest, Plains, what's the difference? They are both borinf cow/corn country
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Midwest, Plains, what's the difference? They are both borinf cow/corn country
Some of the most stable places and satisfied people live on the Plains. They have strong social networks with friends and family that will always be there for them. Not these flaky, fair-weather friends many people have on the West Coast.

I can say that with the large social networks and strong work ethic people have in corn country places like Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota that the people are certainly not bored.

There is only a couple of degrees of separation in these cities and it seems like everybody is always talking to somebody who they have known.

Some of the highest quality healthcare, highest quality education and highest incomes if do it on a purchasing power parity basis are in smaller cities on the plains.

I just read that the average Los Angeles renter is paying 48 percent of their income toward rent.

I remember reading that in these small fly-over cities on the plains it is typically less then 20% of income towards rent.

Personally, if I had to choose I would just live on the plains and go to Los Angeles for a couple of weeks a year with the 28 percent of my income I could save by living in an economically and socially stable, friendly plains town with good healthcare and all the big-box stores that the typical American goes to.

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/cap...come-for-rent/

I think the West Coast is beautiful, but Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota are extremely lush for half the year and I love waking up in the morning and smelling the lush, scented of flowers and foliage air of the plains in the summer.

I honestly don't know what is so entertaining about people's lives in the West. Most people work long hours, have large families and live beyond their means and don't get enjoy the beaches, mountains, arts and fine dining.

I like Southern California but people judging buy the smiles and happiness on their faces seem to have more fun in these small towns on the plains then I see people having in world-class cities like Los Angeles and San Diego.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Some of the most stable places and satisfied people live on the Plains. They have strong social networks with friends and family that will always be there for them. Not these flaky, fair-weather friends many people have on the West Coast.

I can say that with the large social networks and strong work ethic people have in corn country places like Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota that the people are certainly not bored.

There is only a couple of degrees of separation in these cities and it seems like everybody is always talking to somebody who they have known.

Some of the highest quality healthcare, highest quality education and highest incomes if do it on a purchasing power parity basis are in smaller cities on the plains.

I just read that the average Los Angeles renter is paying 48 percent of their income toward rent.

I remember reading that in these small fly-over cities on the plains it is typically less then 20% of income towards rent.

Personally, if I had to choose I would just live on the plains and go to Los Angeles for a couple of weeks a year with the 28 percent of my income I could save by living in an economically and socially stable, friendly plains town with good healthcare and all the big-box stores that the typical American goes to.

Average Angelenos Now Using Nearly Half Their Income for Rent! - California Political Review

I think the West Coast is beautiful, but Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota are extremely lush for half the year and I love waking up in the morning and smelling the lush, scented of flowers and foliage air of the plains in the summer.

I honestly don't know what is so entertaining about people's lives in the West. Most people work long hours, have large families and live beyond their means and don't get enjoy the beaches, mountains, arts and fine dining.

I like Southern California but people judging buy the smiles and happiness on their faces seem to have more fun in these small towns on the plains then I see people having in world-class cities like Los Angeles and San Diego.
Cost of living/material things aren't all there is to life, you can't put a price on good weather/zero snow/palm trees
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:14 PM
 
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All the big box stores, huh? I guess if you're into that sort of thing.
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Cost of living/material things aren't all there is to life, you can't put a price on good weather/zero snow/palm trees
To break this down - good weather is subjective. I love four seasons. I don't love snow, but it's annoying for only about 2 months. Palm trees are pretty, but I love deciduous trees, with the beautiful leaves changing color in the fall. Everyone doesn't prefer my preferences, nor do they yours.
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