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They are right. No one in Richmond really cares. Outsiders make it a point to have these discussions on what Richmond is or isn't, even going as far as telling locals that they know more about what Richmond is than them. The Confederate monuments never get mentioned here(unless you are into that sort of thing) and Richmond actually has a young mayor that is progressively moving to have those monuments removed. We just renamed a school as well. The funny thing about Richmond is, if you ask most black residents if the monuments should be removed or not, most of them say they don't care one way or the other. THAT is Richmond. People on this site care more about identifying what Richmond is than we do. Either way, on the ground, Richmond is a mixture of a lot of things. VA is successful enough in its own right.
I could say Providence isn't New England but that doesn't make it true.
He didn't say Richmond IS NOT in the south, he said no one is fighting over the fact that it is or isn't, I really don't think anyone in Richmond or the 95/64 corridor from NOVA to the Beach get all hot and heavy over the geographic location of the state. There are so many transplants in this region that it trends more East Coast than South.
Once and for all, geographically, urban Virginia IS IN the South. Mentally, urban Virginia doesn't hug the north or the south, it just is what it is, a true melting pot at the southern end of the East Coast megalopolis.
Thank you, Poquoson...
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Originally Posted by btownboss4
That's what some people think but it's not true. They say that because they'd rather be assisted with wealthy successful states like MA, NY, CT etc than MS, AL, AR.
But anyone can see in about 5 minutes of being in Richmond or Norfolk that is completely Southern.
Also he didn't mean literally punch you in the face he meant challenge you on the assertion.
Why would VA need an assist from anywhere else? Lmao... Why would VA have a preference for who it associates with? A really compelling argument, I guess I'll just have to take your word for it lol...
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Originally Posted by mpier015
They are right. No one in Richmond really cares. Outsiders make it a point to have these discussions on what Richmond is or isn't, even going as far as telling locals that they know more about what Richmond is than them. The Confederate monuments never get mentioned here(unless you are into that sort of thing) and Richmond actually has a young mayor that is progressively moving to have those monuments removed. We just renamed a school as well. The funny thing about Richmond is, if you ask most black residents if the monuments should be removed or not, most of them say they don't care one way or the other. THAT is Richmond. People on this site care more about identifying what Richmond is than we do. Either way, on the ground, Richmond is a mixture of a lot of things. VA is successful enough in its own right.
The bolded is so true it hurts...the robots on this website are hilarious...
Why is this so important to people? There seems to be an obsession about defining “The South†amongst some southerners.
There's also a palpable narrative on CD from Virginians that Virginia is not the South. I think that all of this silliness stems from the presumption (also here on CD) that "Southern" automatically means a whole host of negatives.
Why would VA need an assist from anywhere else? Lmao... Why would VA have a preference for who it associates with? A really compelling argument, I guess I'll just have to take your word for it lol...
The bolded is so true it hurts...the robots on this website are hilarious...
So you genuinely believe Richmond, VA isn't a Southern city?
There's also a palpable narrative on CD from Virginians that Virginia is not the South. I think that all of this silliness stems from the presumption (also here on CD) that "Southern" automatically means a whole host of negatives.
The only Virginian that has publicly dissociated VA from the South is NOVAguy, who believes NoVa is not in the South but the rest of VA is. Unless you know someone else, who is the other Virginian with the narrative that VA Is not in the South?
They are right. No one in Richmond really cares. Outsiders make it a point to have these discussions on what Richmond is or isn't, even going as far as telling locals that they know more about what Richmond is than them. The Confederate monuments never get mentioned here(unless you are into that sort of thing) and Richmond actually has a young mayor that is progressively moving to have those monuments removed. We just renamed a school as well. The funny thing about Richmond is, if you ask most black residents if the monuments should be removed or not, most of them say they don't care one way or the other. THAT is Richmond. People on this site care more about identifying what Richmond is than we do. Either way, on the ground, Richmond is a mixture of a lot of things. VA is successful enough in its own right.
I can't really agree with that. NoVA doesn't have urban anchors like Newark and Jersey City, the built environments of both regions are TOTALLY different, northern NJ is much more socioeconomically diverse than NoVA (there's a palpable blue collar presence in wide swaths of northern NJ), there's no urban decay to speak of in NoVA, the Black population is a bit negligible in NoVA compared to northern NJ, etc. Those are enough significant differences that preclude anyone from saying the emboldened IMO.
To me, NoVA is the New South on steroids.
I agree with you on this and I was raised in NoVa. It does have a lot of characteristics of upper middle-class Jersey, but there are still plenty of people with cultural ties to the south that were born and raised in NoVA. A lot of younger people and transplants in NoVA want to disassociate themselves from the South as they see that as being a bad thing apparently. I don't know if they think they'll be labeled a racist, stupid, etc. Who knows, but I do know it takes on a negative connotation for many younger and new residents of NoVA. I've been seeing that to a certain extent in pockets of the Raleigh area as well, but nowhere near what I've seen and experienced in NoVA.
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