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Old 12-23-2020, 09:33 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Yawns.

Regardless,White Americans are the largest group BY FAR in DC and NY. That alone sets San Jose apart. Neither whites nor blacks(the historically largest groups in the US) are the majority or plurality in San Jose. Asians are far more dominant and powerful and wealthy in San Jose than any minority group is in either DC or New York.

Again, San Jose is 77% more foreign born than DC no matter how much you wish it wasnt the case.

I admire your feisty attitude tho.
What you're not grasping is that both can be true. The Eastern metros ARE more dominant in White Americans born in this country. They have an entirely different history than SF/SJ. BUT NY and DC are ALSO each by metro area/urban area/ CSA more ethnically diverse across a more broad spectrum of countries from Asia, Africa, Latin America, Europe, the Caribbean etc., than the SF Bay area. Both of these are fact.
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Old 12-23-2020, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Yawns.

Regardless,White Americans are the largest group BY FAR in DC and NY. That alone sets San Jose apart. Neither whites nor blacks(the historically largest groups in the US) are the majority or plurality in San Jose. Asians are far more dominant and powerful and wealthy in San Jose than any minority group is in either DC or New York.

Again, San Jose is 77% more foreign born than DC no matter how much you wish it wasnt the case.

I admire your feisty attitude tho.
Ill throw a yawn back at you.

I dont even know what youre trying to argue here. Diversity isnt a fancy word meaning "not white". Diversity has to encompass a lot of different metrics including where those people come from. If they all come from 3-5 countries (as is the case in San Jose by itself), its not particularly diverse.

The DC metro area is more diverse than the Bay Area and a LOT more diverse than the San Jose metro area by itself.

In addition to ethnic diversity, DC is THE most racially diverse metro area in the US with only NYC being a close 2nd. The numbers back it up and there is nothing more to discuss here.
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Old 12-23-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What you're not grasping is that both can be true.
Not in this case, sorry.

San Jose is simultaneously 77% more foreign born and 30% less White than Washington DC

San Jose is far more the anomaly in this regard compared to the other large metro areas than DC is.
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Old 12-23-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Not in this case, sorry.

San Jose is simultaneously 77% more foreign born and 30% less White than Washington DC

San Jose is far more the anomaly in this regard compared to the other large metro areas than DC is.
Foreign Born Pct:

39.7% San Jose MSA
22.9% Washington MSA


Where are you coming up with 77% more foreign born?

Replace your 7 with a 1, then I hear you.
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Old 12-23-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I mean DC doesnt just have more diversity on paper it is more diverse period.
Could you drop the foreign born totals, country by country for those above 20k in both the San Jose and Washington MSA's please? That will put this to rest.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Could you drop the foreign born totals, country by country for those above 20k in both the San Jose and Washington MSA's please? That will put this to rest.
You bet! Ill drop it down to 5k for San Jose and 10k for DC as well since were measuring smaller places. That will give San Jose every benefit of the doubt.

San Jose MSA - Total Foreign Born Population: 790,026 - 15 Countries over 5K
China: 141,587
Mexico: 130,191
India: 124,706
Vietnam: 104,167
Philippines: 64,189
Korea: 23,353
Iran: 18,163
Japan: 9,591
El Salvador: 9,420
Canada: 9,237
Russia: 9,037
United Kingdom: 8,757
Germany: 8,041
Guatemala: 6,515
Israel: 5,155

Washington DC MSA - Total Foreign Born Population: 1,439,844 - 29 countries over 10K
El Salvador: 199,488
India: 109,617
China: 81,390
Guatemala: 66,285
Mexico: 52,690
Vietnam: 53,549
Ethiopia: 52,199
Korea: 52,067
Philippines: 43,640
Peru: 42,507
Honduras: 40,651
Bolivia: 29,760
Pakistan: 28,617
Ghana: 25,039
Afghanistan: 23,979
Cameroon: 23,079
Nigeria: 22,828
Jamaica: 22,615
Iran: 18,548
Colombia: 18,265
United Kingdom: 17,090
Dominican Republic: 16,432
Germany: 15,792
Sierra Leon: 14,622
Nepal: 12,803
Brazil: 11,151
Bangladesh: 10,950
Russia: 10,216
Nicaragua: 10,157

Im going to start up a following thread talking about metrics of Ethnic Diversity since were going that way on this thread as is. Id love your input when its done. Stay tuned!
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Furthermore, if we extrapolate even further:

African Americans are one of this country's 2 most prevalent racial groups with 400+ years of history, concentrated in the North and South.

So nearly 70% of DCs population is comprised of this country's 2 legacy racial groups. What is impressive about that?
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Foreign Born Pct:

39.7% San Jose MSA
22.9% Washington MSA


Where are you coming up with 77% more foreign born?

Replace your 7 with a 1, then I hear you.
39 is 77% more than 22.

San Jose is 77% more foreign born than DC.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:35 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
You bet! Ill drop it down to 5k for San Jose and 10k for DC as well since were measuring smaller places. That will give San Jose every benefit of the doubt.

San Jose MSA - Total Foreign Born Population: 790,026 - 15 Countries over 5K

China: 141,587
Mexico: 130,191
India: 124,706
Vietnam: 104,167
Philippines: 64,189
Korea: 23,353
Iran: 18,163
Japan: 9,591
El Salvador: 9,420
Canada: 9,237
Russia: 9,037
United Kingdom: 8,757
Germany: 8,041
Guatemala: 6,515
Israel: 5,155

Washington DC MSA - Total Foreign Born Population: 1,439,844 - 29 countries over 10K
El Salvador: 199,488
India: 109,617
China: 81,390
Guatemala: 66,285
Mexico: 52,690
Vietnam: 53,549
Ethiopia: 52,199
Korea: 52,067
Philippines: 43,640
Peru: 42,507
Honduras: 40,651
Bolivia: 29,760
Pakistan: 28,617
Ghana: 25,039
Afghanistan: 23,979
Cameroon: 23,079
Nigeria: 22,828
Jamaica: 22,615
Iran: 18,548
Colombia: 18,265
United Kingdom: 17,090
Dominican Republic: 16,432
Germany: 15,792
Sierra Leon: 14,622
Nepal: 12,803
Brazil: 11,151
Bangladesh: 10,950
Russia: 10,216
Nicaragua: 10,157

Im going to start up a following thread talking about metrics of Ethnic Diversity since were going that way on this thread as is. Id love your input when its done. Stay tuned!
Appreciate ya! And this tells the story we're both explaining clearly.

Oh absolutely, I always enjoy a good diversity thread based on the numbers/data. I'll be looking out for it.
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Old 12-23-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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So as I was saying,
San Jose is simultaneously 77% more foreign born and 30% less White than Washington DC.

DC's racial makeup and foreign born proportion is actually far more in line with the nation as a whole than San Jose, which is considerably less white and black, and considerably more foreign born.
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