Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-17-2021, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
2,752 posts, read 2,406,352 times
Reputation: 3155

Advertisements

I'd put my money on most cities in the interior/central region of the country; the Midwest, interior northeast, mountain west, and much of the south central region.

It has always been about moving to the coasts, now I think the trend will be to move to cheap cities in the central part of the country, away from the coasts. Specifically, I see Appalachia, Rocky Mountain, and Great Plains cities doing very well. To some extent this has already been going on, but I see it accelerating in the 2020's.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-17-2021, 09:01 PM
 
4,177 posts, read 2,957,958 times
Reputation: 3092
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowhomecity View Post
Yes this is an accurate description of the Pittsburgh problem.

Pittsburgh continues to loose population with those from its old manufacturing base. And its metro was heavily dependent upon that. Although its economy has diversified.

And its metro has been aging without pulling in enough new migrants to overcome that, and many retire down to the south and no longer have primary residency in Pittsburgh. This is honestly similar to what is happening with Chicago right now, which is seeing lots of stagnation with population, while still seeing economic growth. There has been a large drop off in new migrants.

US Air (which was founded in Pittsburgh) also had their hub in Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh International Airport was quite impressive.

But when they consolidated and closed the hub in the early 2000s, that also was a negative for the city. Because prior to US Air leaving Pittsburgh had an impressive airport with many connections. (Obviously something business seeks and is a part of the economic development puzzle).

The old US Airways hub also made Pittsburgh a more attractive place to live, because it made air travel less expensive, which diminished the fact the city is slightly isolated. (Similar to Denver).

But it is still pulling in new jobs, and they are mostly in the tech sector. And pay very well.

No it is not pulling in the jobs like Austin, but Pittsburgh tech growth is notable.

So while it has been shedding population, it has been gaining wealth and a higher share of educated and white collar workers and its QOL has been on a continual increase, not decline. Despite what just looking at the population stats would suggest.

Pittsburgh actually ranks pretty high on its share with those with an advanced degree of educated cities in the USA.

Carnegie Mellon really is a true powerhouse of innovation that ranks right up there with Stanford and MIT.

This is why I see it growing in the 2020s. Because I see at some point, its legacy assets and overall affordability will become big selling points.

But we will see.
When US Air was the dominant carrier you could get anywhere but flying out of Pittsburgh was very expensive. Some local travelers would drive to metro Cleveland for less expensive flights. US Air was a curse and a blessing. US Air left Pittsburgh with a monster sized airport and maintenance facility. Luckily Pittsburgh is putting a billion dollars into a full modern wood and glass terminal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-17-2021, 09:03 PM
 
4,159 posts, read 2,850,035 times
Reputation: 5517
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpipkins2 View Post
When US Air was the dominant carrier you could get anywhere but flying out of Pittsburgh was very expensive. Some local travelers would drive to metro Cleveland for less expensive flights. US Air was a curse and a blessing. US Air left Pittsburgh with a monster sized airport and maintenance facility. Luckily Pittsburgh is putting a billion dollars into a full modern wood and glass terminal.
Hub cities usually see a premium bump in prices due to lack of competition from other airlines.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 01:32 AM
 
16,701 posts, read 29,526,453 times
Reputation: 7671
Jacksonville
Brunswick, GA
Columbus, GA
Huntsville
Piedmont Triad
Chattanooga
Knoxville
Birmingham
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
67,650 posts, read 60,925,505 times
Reputation: 101078
I'm going with Huntsville AL, Tulsa OK and Chattanooga TN. I think most Sunbelt mid sized cities will see some significant growth and development over the next decade but these really stand out to me.

Oh and let's throw in Cincinnati OH as well, and Knoxville TN and Louisville KY.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 03:35 PM
 
63 posts, read 35,009 times
Reputation: 173
Out of nowhere? I'd say Milwaukee is a good candidate.

It never really suffered the same level of population decline a lot of rust belt cities did. There's been a surprising amount of Development both in the downtown core and surrounding neighborhoods. They've working on getting a streetcar up and running, while not impressive in it's current form it could be if they get some extensions in place. They have relatively good cultural attractions, including a lake front art museum and a new orchestra in a renovated movie palace. It has better access to nature than it's neighbor to the south, Chicago, but is still really only an hour-hour and a half drive away.

It's a cheap city, with good legacy city level amenities and walk-ability. The winters are tough, but they are in Madison too, and Madison has been booming. I'm honestly thinking Madison's recent success is spilling over into Milwaukee, along with people looking for cheaper living from the Chicagoland area.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 04:09 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
13,966 posts, read 24,165,301 times
Reputation: 14762
While it really wouldn't be coming out of nowhere, due to its decades of laying a solid STEM foundation, the emergence of Huntsville would feel like it came out of nowhere. I think that another decade of solid growth will start to pay off for it. Also after passing the 200K mark in the city, it's starting to build a more visible resume for itself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 04:22 PM
 
14,021 posts, read 15,022,389 times
Reputation: 10466
No city smaller now than in 1960 came out of nowherec
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-18-2021, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
809 posts, read 469,277 times
Reputation: 1448
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Quiet_One View Post
I think some of the small to mid-size northeast cities are going to gain some traction now. There's a lot of people who don't want to pay the high housing costs in the big cities, but still want to be in the northeast instead of move outside the region, even if just for the higher wages until they retire. Also, many millennials are looking to buy homes instead of apartments. These trends started earlier, but the pandemic has really pushed things a lot, especially with the growth of teleworking. For people who only need to be in Manhattan or Boston once or maybe twice a week, I think the future is looking good for some of the cities with cheaper housing that are a couple hours away. Especially Hartford, New Haven, and Lancaster. Possibly Allentown and Springfield, MA. Just when people were starting to write-off the suburbs, I think it's looking like a good time to be suburban Connecticut and New Jersey.
Yes - I agree. New Haven and Providence are on the rise - important universities, diverse population, and close proximity and direct train connections to NYC and Boston respectively.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2021, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
8,975 posts, read 10,212,799 times
Reputation: 14252
I’m going to say Rapid City, SD; Cheyenne, WY; and mayyybe Scottsbluff NE. They all have that dry climate everyone seems to like, fairly accessible to nature/outdoor opportunities, and not all that much colder/snowier than Denver. I’d also maybe throw in some further flung places like Rock Springs WY.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top