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Not true. I never intended on staying in Baltimore my whole life. We picked NC because it's in between Augusta, where my wife is from, and Baltimore.
Congrats on your move to Charlotte KodeBlue. I interviewed there for a job a few years ago and visited a few times and absolutely loved the city and surrounding area. It was only issues related for the job itself that prevented me from moving, but I would have moved in a heartbeat. I still remember meeting up with some friends in the area and going out in Uptown, and had a great time. I had even scoped out a really nice apartment, if things had worked out.
Baltimore is on its own in that category. The only other Southern city for which that might be said is New Orleans which has always been a regional oddity from the very start but was also never quite as industrial as Baltimore.
What's the point in having these arguments everyday if there is no definition of the south.
The point is that it is the very fact that such issues aren't very clearly defined by any authoritative source is what generates such lively discussion in the first place--hence, this forum.
Why would there be pages of discussion about any such issue if you could just do a simple copy and paste of the answer?
I love how every few years this topic is brought up, and the line for the South keeps moving south. There's a difference between geography and culture. Just because a city has an influx of northern migrants, does not make it northern. I would make the case that there's a lot more in common with rural Midwesterners and rural southerners, then say someone from Richmond, VA proper and another person from Danville, VA (as an example). The culture is no longer north v. south. Instead, it's rural v. urban.
Anyone who thinks North v South doesn’t matter please please go to Vermont or the Berkshires and compare it to rural Alabama. They’re not remotely similar.
Anyone who thinks North v South doesn’t matter please please go to Vermont or the Berkshires and compare it to rural Alabama. They’re not remotely similar.
I live in Upstate NY near Vermont and the Berkshires. I'm originally from WV (some might consider southern). There honestly isn't a big difference between where I live now and where I am originally from.
The problem with your argument is that you selected Vermont and the Berkshires to compare with rural Alabama. Both are tourist areas that attract people from the Northeast. Yeah they're different from Alabama, but those are liberal hotbeds. There's plenty of places in NY, NH, Maine, and even Vermont that a person from Alabama would feel right at home! The town I live in, in the middle of the Adirondacks, is covered in Trump flags, guns, jacked up trucks, etc... People love the outdoors, fishing, hunting, country music, tobacco products, Fox News, etc...
Sure you can find exceptions to the rule. But I could also find conservatives and country music lovers in Midtown.
So, yes. Rural America is similar to rural American, no matter what region.
I love how every few years this topic is brought up, and the line for the South keeps moving south. There's a difference between geography and culture. Just because a city has an influx of northern migrants, does not make it northern. I would make the case that there's a lot more in common with rural Midwesterners and rural southerners, then say someone from Richmond, VA proper and another person from Danville, VA (as an example). The culture is no longer north v. south. Instead, it's rural v. urban.
Not true. I never intended on staying in Baltimore my whole life. We picked NC because it's in between Augusta, where my wife is from, and Baltimore.
That doesn't mean you wouldn't ever leave though and it's clear from many of your past posts that Baltimore's continued decline played a part in your decision--as has obviously been the case for many others over the past few decades.
Either way, to say that Baltimore is just the same today as it was 200 years ago is just asinine--and that's without even considering any sort of past or present regional identification as the context.
Congrats on your move to Charlotte KodeBlue. I interviewed there for a job a few years ago and visited a few times and absolutely loved the city and surrounding area. It was only issues related for the job itself that prevented me from moving, but I would have moved in a heartbeat. I still remember meeting up with some friends in the area and going out in Uptown, and had a great time. I had even scoped out a really nice apartment, if things had worked out.
I like it here. It's warmer in the winter, less snow, less crime, less traffic, and some new building pops up almost daily. Uptown is surprisingly busy as well. You can also legally protect yourself.
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