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Huh? Atlanta is Southern. It’s the Capital of the American South.
On this website, I *THINK* Northern equals "urban" while Southern equals "country". There's enough Yankee transplants in the Atlanta area that thick Yankee accents are just about as common as thick Southern accents.
On this website, I *THINK* Northern equals "urban" while Southern equals "country". There's enough Yankee transplants in the Atlanta area that thick Yankee accents are just about as common as thick Southern accents.
Sooo....
Do my country cousins in Wayne County, NY who drive lifted trucks and wear camo 8 days a week make Upstate, NY.....Southern?
By that logic there’s a harder line between DC & Baltimore because they are even more different culturally, demographically & architecturally than Baltimore & Philly are despite being 3.5x closer.
Um geologically speaking Baltimore (and DC) sit on the fall line of the Atlantic costal plain and the Piedmont and have the same agricultural hardiness zone as… wait for it…. Philly & NYC
Please do explain how the city is “the same place” as it was 60-70 years ago.
The urban/rural devide is the the only thing I agree with here.
I never liked the idea of Fredericksburg being the line. Feels arbitrary. Esp for people not from the area. I feel like people pick it because it's the end of the Washington metro. But that would imply that Fredericksburg or even Stafford are somehow more Northern in culture than Richmond or Charlottesville. I don't buy it. The line, imo, would have to be somewhere just south of Richmond or just south of Prince William county. The areas between that are too similar to draw the line in the middle at Fredericksburg. Even then, at least in Virginia's case, it would still be more of a crescent. There's not much way to make a case that Winchester or Front Royal are more Northern in culture than Hampton roads or Richmond despite being in the northern part of the state.
Yeah, I practice there is no clear cut line. In my mind, there is a more of a gradual transition zones. On the east coast, I would say MD, DE, WV and VA form something of a transition zones. Rural areas in those areas will feel more southern than bigger growing areas which have more transplants. Parts of WV feel far more southern than say Bethesda MD even though they are technically further north.
I would say Richmond is the northern most southern city, Philly is the southern most northeastern city, places like Baltimore and DC are northern leaning, but not northeastern.
Yeah, I practice there is no clear cut line. In my mind, there is a more of a gradual transition zones. On the east coast, I would say MD, DE, WV and VA form something of a transition zones. Rural areas in those areas will feel more southern than bigger growing areas which have more transplants. Parts of WV feel far more southern than say Bethesda MD even though they are technically further north.
I would say Richmond is the northern most southern city, Philly is the southern most northeastern city, places like Baltimore and DC are northern leaning, but not northeastern.
Yeah, I practice there is no clear cut line. In my mind, there is a more of a gradual transition zones. On the east coast, I would say MD, DE, WV and VA form something of a transition zones. Rural areas in those areas will feel more southern than bigger growing areas which have more transplants. Parts of WV feel far more southern than say Bethesda MD even though they are technically further north.
I would say Richmond is the northern most southern city, Philly is the southern most northeastern city, places like Baltimore and DC are northern leaning, but not northeastern.
York was settled by people from Philly so it’s going to culturally be more aligned with PA. York being a exburb of Baltimore is a relatively recent thing
My parents, who are natives of rural northern Missouri, would categorically reject your notion of Missouri as a Southern state.
In addition, nothing about northern West Virginia is Southern. In fact, every single county bordering Pennsylvania voted to secede from Virginia during the Civil War.
Don't care what happened in 1860. Missouri is more southern than northern in everything but geography. It's not the deep south or something but if you have to put each and every state into the bucket of North or South, Missouri is going in South. It's a blues and BBQ state. St Louis bounce that name didn't come from nowhere it's from NOLA bounce and the St Louis music is heavily southern crunk. It's the Mark Twain state who's associated with the South. Ozarks are associated with the South and Arkansas. Mississippi river is associated with the south Memphis and the Delta. Memphis a city that has more in common with St Louis culturally than Chicago.
And again about confederate states, it's not that simple to begin with with Missouri or any of those border states. If we went by the voting rules that would make Kentucky a northern state which is just ridiculous. the only thing northern about Kentucky is the winters
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