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Old 01-26-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Because marriage law has gone from an unfair lopsided institution against women
To one against men
No fault law is anything but no fault
People want justice
They are not getting it
Men don’t stand up bek they don’t want to get knocked down

 
Old 01-26-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 49erfan916 View Post
let's see. there's:

fake rape allegations
fake physical abuse allegations
divorce hits men WAY harder on their finances then women. Women are more likely to have custody of his children.
the manta of happy wife happy life bull**** still exists.
If the husband has a submissive wife, then the husband must be abusive....
Women have more "back up" partners then men do.
Today's men are ******* and cater to his woman's every whim; even if she doesn't appreciate it.

Let's face it. If a man is faced with rape or physical abuse accusations, and even when they're proven to be false, his reputation is tarnished forever. She knows it and he sure in the hell knows it.

However, it goes both ways. Some women are afraid to stand up to their husbands because she is dependent on his income and place to stay. Or she likes to have stability in her relationships.

These are only handful of cases. There are women and children who face the real pain and that number is 100 times higher than that fake cases.


Women dependent on mens income and place to stay??? Are you even from America?? This is a typical mentality from a particular group of people.


And no woman is going to accuse someone they don't even know.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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These are only handful of cases. There are women and children who face the real pain and that number is 100 times higher than that fake cases.


Women dependent on mens income and place to stay??? Are you even from America?? This is a typical mentality from a particular group of people.


And no woman is going to accuse someone they don't even know.
This is going to turn into a divorce thread, which is never good, but I agree with you. Most people I know who've gotten divorced recently have shared custody of their kids and alimony wasn't even on the table. This idea of men being bled dry while women are swimming in a pile of their money is a stereotype from the 70s. It's the 21st century--salaries and childcare are more equal than ever, and settlements reflect that.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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I often yield to my wife out of respect. She does SO much for the house, the family, and such that the least I can do is take her opinion and desires to the next level.

She often prefers for me to make the big decisions and set up plans (trips, vacations, etc), but I run everything by her before doing so.

In return, I'll ask for her permission to "go out with the boys" and I'll not make plans if she has a good reason for me not to.

It's called "marriage"!
 
Old 01-26-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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This is going to turn into a divorce thread, which is never good, but I agree with you. Most people I know who've gotten divorced recently have shared custody of their kids and alimony wasn't even on the table. This idea of men being bled dry while women are swimming in a pile of their money is a stereotype from the 70s. It's the 21st century--salaries and childcare are more equal than ever, and settlements reflect that.
It's actually not a stereotype. My fiancé has to pay lifetime alimony, and it's a yoke around both our necks. Men really do not get a fair shake in court, my honey's family court judge treats him like a bum when they are in court. It's a huge amount, more than the mortgage payment on our new home. When his work is slow, or when he's hurt, it is easy to fall behind, and when he does, ex-wife gets him arrested. I've bailed him out twice in the 18 months or so we've been together. Then she sends him a text mocking him. There was a group called NJ for Alimony reform that managed to get lifetime alimony disallowed in the future, but the legislature refused to make it retroactive. But their website had a section called Horror Stories, written by men in similar straights as my honey. Some of them make your hair stand on end. One man fell behind because he had brain cancer and was still jailed 7 weeks. That case actually got publicity and a pro-bono lawyer. Women in family court get free legal help to collect money, but the men are on their own. How do you afford a lawyer when you're paying over $1500 a month alimony as well as your own bills?


However, my honey chose to marry a woman with bipolar disorder. She was not really a nice and loving person even before they married, yet he chose to marry her. That's on him (even though we both suffer for the decision made so many years ago). Most women are not vindictive and hateful. It's certainly not stopping him from wanting to marry me, because it's not about women in a global sense, but individuals. In fact he feels like the luckiest guy in the world to have found me.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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You may be reflecting on the difference between men and women - and not fear or an unwillingness to stand up to their wives. Men tend to operate more on logic, while women are more emotional. Engaging in a logical discussion with a woman who feels emotionally attached to her point of view is a 'no win' situation. It's often better to save the battles for things the man really cares about - and compromise on the things she cares about - (Based on 50-years of marriage).
Spot on. I asked some guy friends and they say the same thing. Save the battles for things they actually care about. Other responses: they don't want to hear nagging or I love my wife and just like protecting her, I want to see her happy.....happy wife happy life.

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Old 01-26-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I often yield to my wife out of respect. She does SO much for the house, the family, and such that the least I can do is take her opinion and desires to the next level.

She often prefers for me to make the big decisions and set up plans (trips, vacations, etc), but I run everything by her before doing so.

In return, I'll ask for her permission to "go out with the boys" and I'll not make plans if she has a good reason for me not to.

It's called "marriage"!
Mutual respect? What's that?
 
Old 01-26-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Default Pretty Obvious

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I hesitated to put this here or the Relationship Forum, but I prefer to run it here as it's so debatable.

I try to downplay the statement (You Never Say No To Your Wife or PBT/Power Behind The Throne) but I see it too often, the fear of saying No to the wife.

I've done massage for 30-40 years and have had many a married man on my table and I've heard too many stories.

One of my massage clients would love to join me on one of my 1-day trips to L.A., going to museums, as he loves Art. Wife not interested, and? She won't allow him to go without her!

My cousin is snowbirding it in western AZ this winter, and I've offered to pay their RT fares to L.A. from Vegas for a 2 day venture, since neither has ever been there. He'd love to go with, but the wife is not interested, and she's the boss! So as not to create friction, he's not going.

Having read a bio of Michelle Obama, Barrack was so smitten with her, he called her The Boss from the beginning of their marriage. "No, your smoking days are over!" "Yes, Boss!"

I learned very late on, that my Father never wanted children (my mother had 3, which explains why he never had much time for us, can't blame him!) and he wanted to move far away from family to Colorado, and she wanted to remain close to family. And? Who won that battle?

When I put my house up for sale, a couple came to look at it, the husband went wild with job at seeing my work bench and storage area in my garage, saying "Perfect!" The wife grimaced, and the agent told me, privately: You should know, it's the woman who makes these decisions! House not sold!

What's your take on this "mystery"?

It's been said, true love is wanting the other to be as happy as possible, and?
It's very basic, the wife controls what happens in the bedroom. Most guys like to have sex with their wives. If you go up against what your wife wants too much you will end up without a wife! LOL
 
Old 01-26-2018, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Illinois USA
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My husband uses the "wife won't let me" excuse all the time to get out of things he himself doesn't care to go to so I'm wondering if this is really as prevalent as suggested.
hes a smart man

act stupid and incompetent for all the small pesky tasks you want to get out of

but be good at the important things ( like having a decent job) so your woman does not think you are a complete loser
 
Old 01-26-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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The OP hasn't seen my wife mad!
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