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Well, I guess women will have some money to pay for those babies they make since the other maker can get out of it so easily. I see this universal income thing going nowhere because at that point, fathers could be forced to feed and clothe children.
She who controls her uterus controls her destiny. The person with the uterus has the ultimate responsibility to decide when and how to bring new life into the world. The responsibility is not equal, it falls squarely on the human being who has the child construction equipment. I call this situation reality. So it is up to women, not men, to decide when to bring new life into the world, and with whom, and under what financial and existential conditions. And the financial cost of birth control and abortion goes to the individual with the baby construction equipment. Not society.
She who controls her uterus controls her destiny. The person with the uterus has the ultimate responsibility to decide when and how to bring new life into the world. The responsibility is not equal, it falls squarely on the human being who has the child construction equipment. I call this situation reality. So it is up to women, not men, to decide when to bring new life into the world, and with whom, and under what financial and existential conditions. And the financial cost of birth control and abortion goes to the individual with the baby construction equipment. Not society.
Only a man who has not always treated women well could post this. What tripe. Real birth control is phenomenally expensive and not usually covered by insurance. Birth control pills are promoted as the Gold Standard contraceptive because the technology is so primitive its cheap. And relatively ineffective. Truly effective birth control is tightly controlled.
You are obviously pro-choice. Rare in an American hence my opening statement. Well your compatriots aren't. They know what you don't. That the underclass has to be maintained by forcing poor women to have their babies. Abortion is gone after the next Inauguration. Birth control pills are already not covered by the insurance plans available to working class women. The price will triple overnight after inauguration. The War on Women is only just getting going.
My jaw drops at the mountain of negative ju-ju you have built for yourself in this one thread. I don't usually believe in Karma, but I'm wondering about it now. Dude, take a look around. Doctors, nurses, dentists ... would you consider a doctor to be a mooch? Just heard today that 1/5 of dentists are going to be out of work. Forever. You're like the stranded WWII soldier who doesn't know the war is over and that your side lost.
A LOT of good people have had their lives trashed overnight by a Plague and you continue prattling on about 'choices'. I would check myself were I you. Don't say no one warned you when you find yourself up close and personal to Destiny.
Only a man who has not always treated women well could post this. What tripe. Real birth control is phenomenally expensive and not usually covered by insurance. Birth control pills are promoted as the Gold Standard contraceptive because the technology is so primitive its cheap. And relatively ineffective. Truly effective birth control is tightly controlled.
You are obviously pro-choice. Rare in an American hence my opening statement. Well your compatriots aren't. They know what you don't. That the underclass has to be maintained by forcing poor women to have their babies. Abortion is gone after the next Inauguration. Birth control pills are already not covered by the insurance plans available to working class women. The price will triple overnight after inauguration. The War on Women is only just getting going.
My jaw drops at the mountain of negative ju-ju you have built for yourself in this one thread. I don't usually believe in Karma, but I'm wondering about it now. Dude, take a look around. Doctors, nurses, dentists ... would you consider a doctor to be a mooch? Just heard today that 1/5 of dentists are going to be out of work. Forever. You're like the stranded WWII soldier who doesn't know the war is over and that your side lost.
A LOT of good people have had their lives trashed overnight by a Plague and you continue prattling on about 'choices'. I would check myself were I you. Don't say no one warned you when you find yourself up close and personal to Destiny.
The expense is irrelevant. Either pay it, or be celibate. Pick one. With great power, comes great responsibility.
There is no underclass. There are people who make bad decisions and consciously choose a diminished life. Another choice is possible. Stay in school, don’t do drugs, don’t do crime, don’t make babies, do be valuable to others and work hard. Don’t do things out of order, and exercise self-discipline, self-control, and, when necessary, self-denial. Very easy to live a good life. You just have to choose it, focus on it, and execute it. The alternative is your problem if you make bad choices and you should not victimize others by being a mooch-leech if you do so.
There is no war on women, or men. There are just free individuals exercising free choice. If those choice are bad, the consequences will be predictably bad.
There is no karma. It doesn’t exist.
There is no destiny. There is no fate but what we make, for ourselves. (Terminator 2: Judgment Day).
Dentists will be back to work soon, and will be fine. Covid-19 is an interruption, not a cessation. It is also a learning opportunity and a chance to innovate and improve. Which is exactly what will happen. World War 2 improved the world, and so will Covid-19.
Disaster is how we learn and improve.
I think many people will learn to save money after this. Plan on 2 years of saved income. Then you can weather storms like Covid-19, and the next storm that will arrive. Unexpected storms should be expected. Because they usually come. We can learn how to deal with such uncertainty. By making good, sound, rational, non-mystical CHOICES.
Dentists will be back to work soon, and will be fine. Covid-19 is an interruption, not a cessation. It is also a learning opportunity and a chance to innovate and improve. Which is exactly what will happen. World War 2 improved the world, and so will Covid-19
Some dentists will be back to work soon. More than a few were not able to survive even the three months without regular income. Others will not be able to survive the hit to their business caused by ~40% of their clientele not returning. Others will not be allowed to re-open because their offices cannot be made compliant with the new post-Covid guidelines for operation.
Where do you get your news? Google: "percent of Americans who did not see a dentist last year". And that was before Covid. Do you honestly believe this stuff you write? "The next storm ..." This storm isn't even 1/2 over. There is still PLENTY of time for this one to be the last one any of us see. There is plenty of time for the geo-political fallout of Covid originating in China to touch off WWIII. If you think WWII was a good thing, no doubt you will be overjoyed by this news. The rest of us do not share your optimistic outlook.
Some dentists will be back to work soon. More than a few were not able to survive even the three months without regular income. Others will not be able to survive the hit to their business caused by ~40% of their clientele not returning. Others will not be allowed to re-open because their offices cannot be made compliant with the new post-Covid guidelines for operation.
Where do you get your news? Google: "percent of Americans who did not see a dentist last year". And that was before Covid. Do you honestly believe this stuff you write? "The next storm ..." This storm isn't even 1/2 over. There is still PLENTY of time for this one to be the last one any of us see. There is plenty of time for the geo-political fallout of Covid originating in China to touch off WWIII. If you think WWII was a good thing, no doubt you will be overjoyed by this news. The rest of us do not share your optimistic outlook.
I know. Armageddonism is a hobby with some. They just love it. All your predictions are asserted bs with no evidence to back it up. The country is reopening, the world is reopening, everything will be fine. It's been nothing more than a very bad flu in the final analysis.
Yes, there will be continued upheavals. And yes some more deaths, mostly older people. But a vaccine and effective treatments are getting closer and closer.
And don't worry about dentists. They will be fine, and in a year will have forgotten most of this as they are drilling and filling.
Time to get on with business. And the business of America is business!
Well, I guess women will have some money to pay for those babies they make since the other maker can get out of it so easily. I see this universal income thing going nowhere because at that point, fathers could be forced to feed and clothe children.
The UBI (or as it has been presented as the 'freedom dividend) is an equalizer.
Women would be less likely to be stuck in a loveless, abusive marriage. A working single mother might be better able to provide child care; less dependent upon the man, married or not, child support or not --- men might be more apt to treat their wives better, as well as, wives to their husbands.
A worker in a job in which they find abusive (and there are those) would be more apt to leave that employment in search of better, knowing they could continue their car payment and/of roof over their head payments.
Employers with the knowing their employees do not have to put up with a lot, will be more apt to be more appeasing, least they find themselves with 0 employees and having to do all the work by themselves.
Some one who has managed savings with the thought of opening up their own business, might find that doing so with the knowing that a monthly (capital) dividend, supplies some what of a foundation for such an adventure. If successful in their new business adventure they would be employing others, creating additional revenue within their cities, towns, and communities.
Last (but certainly not all advantages of a 'freedom dividend') since the monthly stipend is money that would be received by all no matter of their social class status, people who have a tendency to look down their nose at others who receive government assistance, would not be able to cast those stones, without first looking at their own check they are receiving, as well. Even if they opt out of receiving it, just the knowing, might stop a lot of the class discourse in division we have in our society.
Could be all these things I have mentioned are reasons why the UBI is such a hated concept. If more people were prone to be helpful of others who are having a difficult time getting a leg up in our society --- there would be no need for government to intervene. As in all things in a society, a need, must present itself, before a government can act on it.
If more of the elitist found themselves in pickled situations, we would not be having this discussion --- they would fix it, least they be the ones who starve.
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People who are rational don’t get pickled. They prepare. They understand that life is unpredictable and bad things can happen at any time. So they save money for income interruption, and they buy appropriate insurance, and they don’t have kids before the right time and with the right spouse, and they stay in school and get adequate education, and they don’t smoke cigarettes and get drunk on a daily basis. So, short of terminal illness, they don’t get pickled. They are ready, because they made themselves that way. It’s a decision, a choice, a selection, a product of free will.
Mooch-leeches don’t prepare. Bad things just seem to “happen”. Why? Because they didn’t look before they crossed the street of life. And what happens when the bad things just seem to “happen”. They look to make their problem someone else’s problem. They mooch. They leech. That’s just what mooch-leeches do. They don’t see that they have a choice because the “problems” just happened through “no fault of their own”. But. When you don’t run your life rationally and prepare for the natural unexpected occurrences that actually should be expected, IT IS THROUGH COMPLETE FAULT OF YOUR OWN.
So the mooch-leech mentality that wants a UBI is no surprise. It’s just how mooch-leeches live. Externalize the blame, externalize uncertainty, externalize bad character.
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People who are rational don’t get pickled. They prepare.
In other words they are perfect people in an imperfect world? No one is too big to fail, no one. And arrogance does not feed families.
In other words they are perfect people in an imperfect world? No one is too big to fail, no one. And arrogance does not feed families.
Planning and a rational approach to life are not anywhere close to perfection. In fact, it should be considered a bare minimum. We get what we settle for. Let’s stop settling and start expecting the bare minimum: basic care, planning, and preparation for life.
Arrogance does not feed families. Basic non-retarded attention and focus does.
In other words they are perfect people in an imperfect world? No one is too big to fail, no one. And arrogance does not feed families.
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Originally Posted by Marc Paolella
Planning and a rational approach to life are not anywhere close to perfection. In fact, it should be considered a bare minimum. We get what we settle for. Let’s stop settling and start expecting the bare minimum: basic care, planning, and preparation for life.
Arrogance does not feed families. Basic non-retarded attention and focus does.
Only when a 'need' is there does the government have reason to act --- if we were a non-retarded society and were inclined to help each other out, we would not be having this discussion; there would be no 'need'. But because there are those (retards) that like to sit on their freaking high horse --- here we are, talking about something that could be solved, without government intervention.
Only when a 'need' is there does the government have reason to act --- if we were a non-retarded society and were inclined to help each other out, we would not be having this discussion; there would be no 'need'. But because there are those (retards) that like to sit on their freaking high horse --- here we are, talking about something that could be solved, without government intervention.
Expecting rational decision making and basic responsibility and self-control is not sitting on a high horse. It is sitting on a Shetland pony. We only need start demanding it, instead of declaring everyone a victim when they are really only a victim of their own stupidity and lack of discipline and self-control.
And help is not something incompetent boobs get to demand. It is something they should ASK for. And people should be able to say yes or no after looking at the person and seeing if they are nothing but a loser who will forever be "demanding help" due to their own bad character.
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