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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by baltimoreguy1
A better question...why is stealing okay?
Is it ever okay ---
Interesting enough if a robber breaks in to one's home they will do all they can to stop them. However the same persons will open their hard earned money to the government, let them steal every dime.
Are you jealous of low income people? You do realize they are mostly isolated from the rest of society, right?
If you can lock them all up and then gas them will you finally be satisfied then? There is no true ‘fun’ for welfare people. They just exist for a little while and then they die off. That means more fun for you.
Can you read? It will become their fun money because the other forms of welfare will never go away. Why do you think there's so many obese people on welfare? They're not starving and they still sell their food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar. They always have purses, phones, manicures. Don't tell me there are no jobs either even in this current time I see now hiring posters on nearly every fast food place, on trucks driving on the freeway. People just don't want to work because the gov will continue to provide them an existence.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Robertfchew
Isn't the universal part supposed to mean that everyone gets it? From the bum sleeping under the freeway to Jeff bezos. If it's means tested then it's just more welfare that takes from lower middle to middle class to fund the bottom feeders.
Yes, every one gets it and no, if it is means tested then it isn't a UBI. One qualifies because they are human and a citizen of the u.s.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Robertfchew
Can you read? It will become their fun money because the other forms of welfare will never go away. Why do you think there's so many obese people on welfare? They're not starving and they still sell their food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar. They always have purses, phones, manicures. Don't tell me there are no jobs either even in this current time I see now hiring posters on nearly every fast food place, on trucks driving on the freeway. People just don't want to work because the gov will continue to provide them an existence.
Because on welfare obese people can not afford the proper nutrition --- you are spreading the myths told of the poor. Truck drivers will be replaced by self driving trucks and all the places truck drivers stop to spend their money on their routes will dry up --- tax codes and economic rules must be rewritten so as to provide for a sustainable future, because it won't be only the poor who are effected.
btw: many at the top were at the bottom once too and visa versa ...
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 28 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Marc Paolella
Science has a wing. Scientists have many different agendas. Especially economic "scientists". Data can be arranged in any way you like to push a desired narrative. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. Exhibit A: Climate change, fka global warming, fka global cooling.
Throw out all your projections. The future is a complete unknown. Economic modeling depends upon premises and prejudices. Confirmation bias is strong. Predetermined outcomes are strong. Political leanings determine data selection, data manipulation, and desired conclusions.
Toss it. Just live your life as a productive and valuable individual. Bring value to other people. Figure it out. Get paid. That's how a proper life is lived. Don't be a whiner-baby. Just bring VALUE. Happiness and prosperity and stability will follow.
Life is really quite easy when you stick to reality and reason, instead of armageddonism and imaginary constructs.
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Scientists have many different agendas.
If what you say is true, then perhaps those that gathered data on the poor, saying they only give birth to the same, have an agenda, as well?
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Don't be a whiner-baby. Just bring VALUE.
People judge others all the time, if a person is not seen as having value, they will never be able to prove otherwise. We all know who perished when the Titanic capsized and why.
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Originally Posted by Marc Paolella
Yes, compassionate people who don't steal from others and respect private property rights and freedom. THOSE are the people that extend the expectancy of life, and more importantly, the QUALITY of life.
Government stole private property so as to garner more taxes for itself and freedom has been stolen, as well. It will take those compassionate among us to help each other weather the storms of civilization.
btw: I'm still waiting on the age of enlightenment to show up. The less empathy one shows for another, the farther away from reason we as a society will get.
In exchange for a generous monthly UBI, single-payer healthcare system and nationalization of industries, I'll gladly take sealed borders with no immigration(legal or illegal), mass deportations and school choice.
I would take that deal if we also added a flat income tax and a repeal of almost all gun laws and made the death penalty legal for rapists and murderers.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
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Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Robertfchew
I would take that deal if we also added a flat income tax and a repeal of almost all gun laws and made the death penalty legal for rapists and murderers.
Just repeal all individual freedoms and tax the hell out of people; leave corporate alone --- oh wait.
I wouldn't have to worry or care too much about paying it back if my daily needs are being met with adequate service, and if this country did a 180 on economics and nationalism.
Where is this attitude about taxpayer money being used for overseas conflicts and bailing out corps?
Because on welfare obese people can not afford the proper nutrition --- you are spreading the myths told of the poor. Truck drivers will be replaced by self driving trucks and all the places truck drivers stop to spend their money on their routes will dry up --- tax codes and economic rules must be rewritten so as to provide for a sustainable future, because it won't be only the poor who are effected.
btw: many at the top were at the bottom once too and visa versa ...
self driving trucks are a long ways away. We don't even have cars that can be self driven. stop kidding yourself.
Who the heck came up with this UBI nonsense anyway?
It might work in some European companies, but the chance of it working here are about as good as the probability of Nancy Pelosi becoming the next Queen of England.
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