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Again, you are making this up (I have personal knowledge of this). Blacks who commit crimes against anyone else on the basis of race are counted as hate crimes. You are making some wild eyed un verified claim that 'some mysterious beings change the hate crime data'. Thats just crazy.
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You fail to understand the logic(sic), if the crime is cross racial then it is by definition a hate crime, motivation and intent aren't important, just the fact that the victim was white and the perpetrator was black.
Of course you and I both know that establishing intent is a key component in a criminal proceeding, and the inability to demonstrate racial intent would hinder, if not preclude, the charging an individual for an alleged "hate crime", so are we supposed to be surprised that few "blacks" are charged with committing a "hate crime"" as opposed to an crime of opportunity?
Then post a few pounds. If there are tons, then that shouldn't be so hard.
Here's just an example. How many would you need in order to show that the opinion is widespread? They are a little bit harder to find, since they appear in technical journals (often in print only or by subscription), as opposed to peoplemagazineonline.com/, the likes of which provide a steady, highly-remunerative market for the popular writings of any scientist caught up in the PC whirlwind.
"In spite of the objective validity of subspecies, they have been seriously questioned with increasing vigor for over 40 years, beginning most prominently with Wilson and Brown (1953; but see Wilson 1994). More serious threats have come in recent years from proponents of the newly propounded Phylogenetic and Evolutionary Species Concepts.
The inherent non-discrete nature of subspecies, combined with their long, justifiable history of acceptance as an essential part of biosystematics, has perforce been a problem in the context of phylogenetic inference that logically deals with discrete entities. The impasse has led to unjustified rationalizations in the form of either outright rejection of subspecies or of forcing them into a higher rank (species) for which they are fundamentally not qualified as here (and commonly) defined."
Take care to note that these scientists are not fixating on causes of crime or drop-out rates in urban america, but on the differences between examples of fungi or nematodes. As such, they have no interest in stroking people's hurt feelings.
You fail to understand the logic(sic), if the crime is cross racial then it is by definition a hate crime, motivation and intent aren't important, just the fact that the victim was white and the perpetrator was black.
I see where you are getting at, but I do not think this is exactly true, at least for federal hate crimes statutes. The Mens Rea is what determines whether its a hate crime in most jurisdictions, so intent is a big part of it, theoretically. Whether it actually plays out that way is all in the cards.
Also, hate crimes do not usually count for things like theft, wherein the stats show blacks and hispanics do offend more towards whites than whites do to them.
They do refer to violent crime and vandalism, which the stats show whites more often victimize nonwhites (and homosexuals and non christians) several times over than vice versa.
Again, if you are determining breed/race based purely on phonotypes, the argument that red heads, or tall people constitute a separate race is as valid as skin color.
Skin color may be the most obvious difference between the various races but it is not the only one.
Could have fooled me. You sound like a guy with something against blacks.
Again you make that comment with no statistics to back you up. According to the link extra racial crime is almost equal between blacks whites and hispanics.
Lets not make up things, it makes your argument look weak.
Again, you are making this up (I have personal knowledge of this). Blacks who commit crimes against anyone else on the basis of race are counted as hate crimes. You are making some wild eyed un verified claim that 'some mysterious beings change the hate crime data'. Thats just crazy.
Further, if you would have actually looked at the site, you would have noticed that no all the male whate crimes are aimed at blacks. Whites seem to target hispanics, gays, women and muslims at very large numbers as well.
Again lets not make up any claims without statistical verification, if you are going to base your beliefs on statistics.
Ok, now you are just ignoring. Read the above quote, and seriously, go to the site. For your own argumentative sake.
You make your own arguments look foolish citing claims that are disproven out outright false. Unless you have some statistical data that outweighs or is of a greater and more accurate compilation than the FBI, the federal and state courts, the burea of prisons and every law enforcement group in that nation, your claims are essentially just fabrication.
Not a guy, not angry and nothing against blacks. Just debating. I reach my conclusions based on study, research and personal experience. You need to relax, my friend.
Take care to note that these scientists are not fixating on causes of crime or drop-out rates in urban america, but on the differences between examples of fungi or nematodes. As such, they have no interest in stroking people's hurt feelings.
A valuable link, but totally irrelevant to either the question at hand or your argument, an article which establishes the a justification isn't the same thing as establishing the existence of a subspecies for humans, which by the way the article does not even mention.
I would think that will all those tons of literature establishing unequivocally the existence of a phylogenetic family of humans that you could do better.
Ignorance and fear of something different than ones self. Whether it be race, disability or sexuality. Keep an open mind and its easier to get along with mostly everyone.
Agreed. Just as there are many races of people but one single species, homo sapien.
Agree? With what?
When you have a singles species, no subspecies that's it, period, the end.
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