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Old 07-30-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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whoa, where did you get that pic? Is that real? I thought he said he'd never be photographed smoking.
It's been all over the Internet for a long time, and yes, it's real.

 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Another inconsiderate smoker, so you will side with them. There is a different between a considerate smoker, and an inconsiderate one such as yourself. I never have any problems with considerate smokers. That incident was a one time situation because the guy was an inconsiderate low life piece of sh%#! I did not assault him. Give me a break, you're a guy and you consider having a rum and coke poured on you assault?? Give me a break. If I assaulted him I would have been arrested in put in jail. The jerk who was blowing the smoke in his face did way worse to me than I did to him.
First off, I'm a very considerate smoker. You, however, are a very inconsiderate non-smoker.

I'm not the one advocating stripping you of your freedom to practice your preferred vice, am I? No, that's you. YOU are the one pushing for bans on a completely legal activity. Get some perspective.

Second, you absolutely did assault him. Rationalize it however you like, but the bottom line is that he was doing nothing wrong. You had the option of moving to another table (or even another casino - there's a few of them around here...), but you chose to assault him instead. There is absolutely no excuse for your actions. I don't care how much you "feel" like you were the victim there - you screwed up, and deep down, you know it. Man up and admit it.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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First off, I'm a very considerate smoker. You, however, are a very inconsiderate non-smoker.

I'm not the one advocating stripping you of your freedom to practice your preferred vice, am I? No, that's you. YOU are the one pushing for bans on a completely legal activity. Get some perspective.

Second, you absolutely did assault him. Rationalize it however you like, but the bottom line is that he was doing nothing wrong. You had the option of moving to another table (or even another casino - there's a few of them around here...), but you chose to assault him instead. There is absolutely no excuse for your actions. I don't care how much you "feel" like you were the victim there - you screwed up, and deep down, you know it. Man up and admit it.
This is my last message to you, because you just don't get it. If he would have just said that he will try to keep away from me the best he can, like every other smoker does, there would not be a problem. I already said I can compromise and try to also breathe away from it. On the other hand, this guy was purposely being a prick by blowing it in my face, and constantly giving me dirty looks. I was at the tables hours before him so I do not feel I should have needed to move. No, I did not screw up. He deserved it. However, I do regret doing it only because I am now kicked out of one of my favorite casinos for life.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Yeah, why don't you post the whole story. Obama has admitted he has a problem with smoking himself, BUT he is against it completely. He is also the one who got the cigarette tax raised.
Really? HE did that?!?! Gosh, I didn't know!

That's right, the super-duper extra-awesome new President, who claimed that nobody's taxes - "not any of [our] taxes" - would go up unless we made over a quarter million per year is responsible for signing into law the two largest tax increases in U.S. history, both of which were tobacco taxes, and both of which disproportionately affect the poor.

Not something I'd be proud of, but as we've already seen in this thread, your moral compass seems to be WAY off, so I'm not too surprised that you are.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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what is the most littered item? cigarettes!!! You're right second, hand smoke lingering in the air is probably good for us.
You're defending that statement? Really?

Wow.

Ok. If your concern is pollution, I'd like to see your call for banning everything that pollutes worse than cigarettes. We'll start with cars and barbecues. Demonstrate to me that you're serious about banning those two things, and I'll consider taking your "polluting the atmosphere" argument seriously. Until then, I'll just have to assume that you're using it as an excuse to advocate your unjustified campaign for a ban on smoking.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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This is my last message to you, because you just don't get it.
No, YOU don't get it.

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If he would have just said that he will try to keep away from me the best he can, like every other smoker does, there would not be a problem. I already said I can compromise and try to also breathe away from it. On the other hand, this guy was purposely being a prick by blowing it in my face, and constantly giving me dirty looks. I was at the tables hours before him so I do not feel I should have needed to move. No, I did not screw up. He deserved it.
And when the cops arrest you for killing your wife a decade from now, will that be your defense? "She deserved it!"

The fact that you're still claiming that you're not responsible for your actions is astounding. It really, really says a lot about you.

You may be twenty-one, but you have a LOT of growing up to do.


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However, I do regret doing it only because I am now kicked out of one of my favorite casinos for life.
Unbelievable.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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Really? HE did that?!?! Gosh, I didn't know!

That's right, the super-duper extra-awesome new President, who claimed that nobody's taxes - "not any of [our] taxes" - would go up unless we made over a quarter million per year is responsible for signing into law the two largest tax increases in U.S. history, both of which were tobacco taxes, and both of which disproportionately affect the poor.

Not something I'd be proud of, but as we've already seen in this thread, your moral compass seems to be WAY off, so I'm not too surprised that you are.
Smoking and alcohol both are luxuries at best, not necessities. Obama kept his word. I can not understand how, for the life of me, you would say this affects the poor. Poor people do not need to smoke, or drink for that matter. If they chose too, they can pay the increased tax. It is not like he raised the tax on food or shelter, or then I would actually agree on you. Obama is trying his best to HELP the poor, despite his opposition. Look what he is trying to do with healthcare for example. Hillary Clinton did also try to do the same back in the early 90's too, but failed. Mark my words, Obama is going to go down as one of the best presidents this nation has ever had.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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Smoking and alcohol both are luxuries at best, not necessities. Obama kept his word. I can not understand how, for the life of me, you would say this affects the poor. Poor people do not need to smoke, or drink for that matter. If they chose too, they can pay the increased tax. It is not like he raised the tax on food or shelter, or then I would actually agree on you. Obama is trying his best to HELP the poor, despite his opposition. Look what he is trying to do with healthcare for example. Hillary Clinton did also try to do the same back in the early 90's too, but failed. Mark my words, Obama is going to go down as one of the best presidents this nation has ever had.
So what you're saying, in essence, is that the government should be telling poor people how they should spend their money, whether it's on squeebs, Colt 45, or chicken biscuits at Hardees.

Well, let's keep going, while we're at it. I think all poor people should be banned from having cable television and mobile phones, too. More than three changes of clothes would probably been completely unnecessary. That way they could alternate wearing two different outfits and save one for church on Sundays. And forget buying a pair of $200 sneakers unless you can show your W2 to the cashier.

Magazines do not contribute to their welfare either, unless it's a copy of Forbes or Fortune, and you can read that at the library.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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No, YOU don't get it.


And when the cops arrest you for killing your wife a decade from now, will that be your defense? "She deserved it!"

The fact that you're still claiming that you're not responsible for your actions is astounding. It really, really says a lot about you.

You may be twenty-one, but you have a LOT of growing up to do.



Unbelievable.
Killing my wife, are you freaking kidding me??? I have never been violent in my life. I spent many years of my life as a nursing assistant taking care of people. The same goes for animals as I have volunteered at the Arizona Humane Society. I would never hurt anyone despite what you think. To you, splashing someone at the pool must be violent, since that is essentially what I did at the casino.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: nc
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You're defending that statement? Really?

Wow.

Ok. If your concern is pollution, I'd like to see your call for banning everything that pollutes worse than cigarettes. We'll start with cars and barbecues. Demonstrate to me that you're serious about banning those two things, and I'll consider taking your "polluting the atmosphere" argument seriously. Until then, I'll just have to assume that you're using it as an excuse to advocate your unjustified campaign for a ban on smoking.
Yes, cigarettes are the most littered item, see for yourself, therefore I have no problem defending a statement I know to be true. As for cars, we need vehicles in order for society to run as we know it, however, we are working on making them cleaner. There are necessary risks and unnecessary risks, you should have learned this by now.
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