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I think nowadays there is more of an Asian American presence in movies than there were 10 years ago. At least Asians aren't always playing stereotypes, which I think is a step forward. Until the big studio execs or whoever has the clout to make these decisions, I think people just aren't willing to "take a chance" on casting an Asian American woman in a lead role for a blockbuster film. There are a lot of art house films with beautiful Asian American women in them - and one film stands out that could have been played by probably just about any ethnic group. It's a movie called Saving Face. I think the two main girls in the film are absolutely gorgeous and would love to see them in main stream roles. Maybe someday ...
I think nowadays there is more of an Asian American presence in movies than there were 10 years ago. At least Asians aren't always playing stereotypes, which I think is a step forward. Until the big studio execs or whoever has the clout to make these decisions, I think people just aren't willing to "take a chance" on casting an Asian American woman in a lead role for a blockbuster film. There are a lot of art house films with beautiful Asian American women in them - and one film stands out that could have been played by probably just about any ethnic group. It's a movie called Saving Face. I think the two main girls in the film are absolutely gorgeous and would love to see them in main stream roles. Maybe someday ...
Actually the sad part is that Asian actresses in America usually ARE playing in stereotypical roles.
For example, on the new version of Melrose Place the only Asian character is a woman who is a medical student who has to resort turns to prostitution to pay her bills (which initially starts out by a White man who offers her money for sex on their first date, then offers her services to his friend, which leads her to becoming a full fledged call girl)
Another example, Grey's Anatomy. The Asian woman's character (Sandra Oh) is an unattractive, crusty, asexual, dragon lady stereotype.
In film, Asian women are virtually absent unless the role is in martial arts related film (or a porn film....they are well represented in those types of films).
I find Asian women more attractive than any other race, but that's always been personal preference. It's something I can't really explain, but I do. I don't have an obsession with it nor do I stereotype the group, women are women in any culture, I just find them more pleasing to the eye.
I can't really explain why there aren't more Asian actresses and actors in less stereotypical roles. I always wonder why people do the same thing with Southern men and women. Hollywood has us without teeth and without brain in most of the movies I see.
As an Asian American woman that grew up in New England (CT), I'm so surprised that this thread even went on for so long and that people are making blatant statements to support outdated stereotypes. Even saying things like not finding asians attractive at all, or looking weird in some way,... that type of tone is awfully uneducated and I can't believe it's been tolerated for so many pages without many folks loudly calling it out. I'm sure if folks had made comments that all blacks or latinas were unappealing/strange looking, someone would have been more vocal.
As far as the entertainment industry goes, the connotations in many Asian cultures are different than the American view of media. Particularly in the Chinese culture, most parents do not feel that a career in acting is prestigious vs. something more traditional as a doctor, lawyer, etc. I also agree that women in the entertainment industry today don't necessarily reflect what the general public finds most attractive, but those that have made it have some standout factor that gives mass appeal. (or great publicists/agents).
I think most would agree that there are attractive and unattractive people of every race. Also, I notice that when comments are made to the "American" point of view, it is implied that American means Caucasian, and that all Asians have strong roots in their home countries so it evens out that they're not represented well here. I think this goes against what the U.S. stands for. Aren't we the country that's still only 200 + years old.. meaning that everyone here has immigrated from somewhere? Having travelled abroad I've appreciated much more how diversity is enriching in the U.S. Many Asians as well as many other ethnicities have grown up in the U.S. just as Europeans have, and certainly feel very American. This doesn't mean they don't appreciate their background, just that they're knowledge and perspective has been shaped by growing up in the U.S. I think most people would feel most comfortable considering where they grew up as "home".
I also don't think Asians look drastically different from Caucasians any more than other races do. There are so many looks/types of Asian faces and features that it's hard to generalise. Lucy Liu and Sandra Oh are probably more of the Hollywood stereotyped Asian face, and aren't representative of what the majority of Asian women look like.
Sorry for the long post, but this thread drove me nuts! Thanks for reading
Your thread is obtuse at best and comically naive. Asian women are not considered so desirable. actually they are considered the LEAST desirable by most people. what society do you live in? the real one or the one in your imagination?
And where do you go off making a comment like this? If you personally aren't attracted to Asians, then that's you. Making a grand ridiculous statement like that just makes you look angry and uneducated.
What grounds do you think they are the "least" desirable? Are you in the U.S.? There are plenty of non-Asian women that are pretty undesirable, and I think many would agree just by looking at some of the disasters in the media since we're talking about the entertainment industry here (i.e. britney spears, lindsay lohan...). I don't know what society you live in, but from my understanding most Asians have a very low obesity rate, do well academically, possess petite frames, clear skin, shiny hair, and naturally age pretty well. These have characteristically been reasons that the Asian woman image has been found attractive.
Basically don't generalise.. every ethnic background has beautiful/average/less than average people in terms of looks. There are certain ethnic backgrounds I tend not to be attracted to, but that doesn't mean I don't believe they are the least attractive people as a whole or doubt that there are good looking folks in those backgrounds.
And where do you go off making a comment like this? If you personally aren't attracted to Asians, then that's you. Making a grand ridiculous statement like that just makes you look angry and uneducated.
What grounds do you think they are the "least" desirable? Are you in the U.S.? There are plenty of non-Asian women that are pretty undesirable, and I think many would agree just by looking at some of the disasters in the media since we're talking about the entertainment industry here (i.e. britney spears, lindsay lohan...). I don't know what society you live in, but from my understanding most Asians have a very low obesity rate, do well academically, possess petite frames, clear skin, shiny hair, and naturally age pretty well. These have characteristically been reasons that the Asian woman image has been found attractive.
Basically don't generalise.. every ethnic background has beautiful/average/less than average people in terms of looks. There are certain ethnic backgrounds I tend not to be attracted to, but that doesn't mean I don't believe they are the least attractive people as a whole or doubt that there are good looking folks in those backgrounds.
lol. i already know all that you've written. the point of this thread was how 'american's' view others and why and i was explaining that, not that i agree with it or that it's some enduring truth or fact.
prejudice cited from uneducated or angry doesn't really have much to do with education or even socioeconomics as much as people like to assume. there are many people who are educated that are prejudice or bigots as well.
With all of the threads praising Asian beauty, I was just wondering why there are virtually no Asian women topping any list of actresses: top grossing films, highest paid, sexiest, etc.
Are Lucy Liu and Sandra Oh the best offerings of sex symbols for Asian women ?
Why aren't Asian women represented more diversely in American/European film?
Most males praise Asian beauty becomes it is part of the culture.........to be submissive to males, and American men love that.
Often you will see the Asian beauty giving her husband a massage, once he arrives home from work, in a hot tub, with all her makeup and hairdo in place, then cooking beautiful meals for him, then she slips into a beautiful sexy nightgown, no noisy children around, etc., etc. What male in the USA will not respond to something like that?
Now, if they picture that same Asian beauty coming out of the NYC subway at 6pm, after working 8 hours, that feel like 20, with all the pressure, exhausted............then going to shop for groceries to cook the meal, and picking up the children at the daycare center, do you think most American males, would be so praising? Give me a break!!!!!!
Most males praise Asian beauty becomes it is part of the culture.........to be submissive to males, and American men love that.
Often you will see the Asian beauty giving her husband a massage, once he arrives home from work, in a hot tub, with all her makeup and hairdo in place, then cooking beautiful meals for him, then she slips into a beautiful sexy nightgown, no noisy children around, etc., etc. What male in the USA will not respond to something like that?
Now, if they picture that same Asian beauty coming out of the NYC subway at 6pm, after working 8 hours, that feel like 20, with all the pressure, exhausted............then going to shop for groceries to cook the meal, and picking up the children at the daycare center, do you think most American males, would be so praising? Give me a break!!!!!!
...And that's the stereotype, isn't it? I spent time as a kid with an Asian "step-mom." She was nothing like that subservient Asian female you described, although she was clean, respectful, and could cook like all get out. She was a little bitty lady who didn't hesitate speaking up for herself if need be. I respected that in her.
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