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Old 04-21-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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The media and politicians are always pandering and telling us that Americans are the hardest working people in the world. Yes, some Americans are very hard working and there are lots of impressive people in our country. But in general I find most people I meet to be very lazy. In fact I come in contact with more lazy people all the time. I teach at a college in the evening and so many students are lazy and will do the absolute minimum to pass. During the day I work as a manager at a very good company and we are constantly having trouble with lazy employees who lack creativity, skills and drive.

Do you believe that Americans of all ages are becoming lazy and are Americans still the hardest working people in the world?
While I agree with you in essence, the bolded part is clearly a wrong question, because if you say "Americans of all ages", that includes also people from 50's and older. You need to remember that health of those not young is getting worse as they grow older. Therefore it's not accurate to include also middle age and older folks into the 'lazy category'.
I stated the above, based on my personal experience. Up to about 50 year old, I was preoccupied with all kinds of activities (mainly work). Then my health started to go downhill, and I'm having a difficulties now, in my mid 50's. I think, lot of other people may experience the same.
It is probabaly true, that even among folks in advanced age there are likely many passive (lazy?) individuals, but I would still be careful to blame them for something. In that age you never know what they can or cannot do.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Do you believe that Americans of all ages are becoming lazy and are Americans still the hardest working people in the world?
Of course we are lazy, as evidenced by increasing usage of CD-forums! Now leave me be to my laziness.
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Old 04-21-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Russian Federation
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Lazy russian guy right here. So it's definitely not just America.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:00 AM
 
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I think laziness is a trait that an be found anywhere. Laziness stems for a myriad of reasons:

Lack of drive, lack of ambition, fear of failure, bad familial examples and sense of entitlement.

I think much of the laziness in America stems from sense of entitlement, at least in younger people (those under 30). Much of that entitlement comes from their parents instilling it. Child is born, gets most things he or she wants, much of that on mom and dad's credit cards. Parents don't expect child to do chores or work at 15 or 16. Parents continuing buying child everything; cell phone, perhaps a car, clothes, college, etc. Young adult graduates from college in 4 years if they can, graduates and is thrown into the world. Perhaps moving back home. Parents feel bad that their child is strapped with college debt and loans. Everyone fawns the child with sympathy.

But everyone forgets that perhaps somewhere in the family tree, others came here from far away and toiled away in factories, sweat shops and worked very hard in unsafe conditions to create a life for themselves and their heirs.

In my lifetime, which is still not yet 50 years, I have seen huge changes in society. Many children don't have the opportunity now to build character and learn hard work and sacrifice. If their parents did, the children today weren't around to witness it and the parents are not expecting their children to experience it.

Things come to easy and it's assumed that one can skate through school getting average grades and somehow a safety net will be there to save them again. It's only in their mid 20's when they realize that that their laziness will bite them in the butt.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:05 AM
 
Location: southern california
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no i do not, i think the light follows the baby boomers. when they go--- its over.

the cause of current lazy - 60 years of affluent.
we try so hard to remove all our hardships from the lives of our kids, of course, that is what made us strong.
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Old 04-22-2010, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I slap my face hard, let wisdom come to my rescue, and dare not criticize the lazy: what we hate so much in others, we see so much of in ourselves.
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:57 AM
 
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I am extremely lazy. I am that way for a reason though. My father was an extremely hard worker. He owned his own cabinet making business. He would do whatever he had to get by, such as working out in 115 degree heat and working 16 hour days if necessary. Sure, he did have a nice house and car, but he was always stressed out. He ended up having a massive heart attack at 47 years old. Now me, I have a job where I have to do absolutely nothing but be there. I do not have any stress and am happier at least than he was.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Now me, I have a job where I have to do absolutely nothing but be there. I do not have any stress and am happier at least than he was.
the fact is, a very large number of Americans, possibly most of them, have a job where they have to do very little but be there, and maybe occasionally perform some repetitive motion on demand. Very few of them enjoy a freedom from stress.

I still occasionally have a guilt dream, where I am at the office and I have literally done absolutely nothing for months, maybe years, and I'm still worried about whether anyone has noticed that I never do anything, and I'm desperately trying to think of something I can to to appear busy, and I feel like I'm trapped in this world where for the rest of my life, my only job is to devise ways to look busy, and to constantly be prepared to blame someone else for things that don't get done. It's the closest I ever come to having what I would describe as a nightmare.

It's even worst than the one where I'm in school and I haven't been to a certain class in months, and I need to write an exam, and I can't even remember what room the class is supposed to be in. I wonder if people who are fundamentally lazy have distinctly different kinds of nightmares, than workaholics.
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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Do you think our parents and grandparents slaved their fingers to the bone, so that we could slave our fingers to the bone? Hard-workers made America a country where people could relax in leisure, and you dishonor your ancestors by refusing to accept that gift.
To think that this sort of attitude actually passes as "American" these days. Yes, every socialists dream of prosperity without effort on display for all to get nauseous over.
Can't think of a bigger, more-disgusting disrespecting of our predecessors than an attitude expressed by the above poster. Just go tax the doers to pay off the parasite class so they can live a comfortable lifestyle without earning it for themselves.

I will redouble my efforts to end all forms of welfare, tax credits and institute a flat tax so the parasite-class has to pay their own way, instead of being.... parasites.
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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The media and politicians are always pandering and telling us that Americans are the hardest working people in the world. Yes, some Americans are very hard working and there are lots of impressive people in our country. But in general I find most people I meet to be very lazy. In fact I come in contact with more lazy people all the time. I teach at a college in the evening and so many students are lazy and will do the absolute minimum to pass. During the day I work as a manager at a very good company and we are constantly having trouble with lazy employees who lack creativity, skills and drive.

Do you believe that Americans of all ages are becoming lazy and are Americans still the hardest working people in the world?
My brother has been working about 70 hours a week, at two jobs, for the last 3 years, trying to make ends meet. On both jobs he is on his feet all day and one jobs is extremly physical. Now.....to him.....in your sit down jobs....you MIGHT appear lazy to him. Whats my point? Its that everything is relative. I work about 50 hours a week sitting down.....I used to work in factories as a temp hire while I was working my way through college. Sorry....sit down jobs are not hard work! I can come to work with the flu and still get my work done at the office, but I could not do that in the plants. Now...for sure my job is STRESSFULL but stress and laziness are not correlated. Everyone should try to reduce their stress because stress is not healthy for you, while hard work is. Modernity and energy has reduced hard work in all modern economies.
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