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Old 04-23-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Here's the chart, which is not in text format, so I can't paste it---
http://www.fundmasteryblog.com/wp-co...diem-notax.jpg

We really have to lean on all those lazy people making under $10K and make them pay their share of the tax. You know, kids saving for college and babysitting or mowing lawns. Sock it to them. Never mind the 1/3 of the population that makes $30-75K, who pay no taxes. They're obviously not lazy, so they are justified in not paying any tax. And the one person out of 70 who makes a million dollars and pays no tax, why should he be expected to carry part of the burden? He's certainly not lazy.

You know, you're all right. Instead of taxing income, we should tax laziness. Let's say $100 a day for every day that you don't go to work. If you go to work that day, you pay no tax. Just the people who stay home. Let's see, ten million unemployed, would $365-billion, just from the suckers looking for jobs that don't exist. If you counted everyone, students, retireees, everyone, you could easily rake in a trillion, and people working would pay no tax at all. Enough to bail out two or three investment banks. A conservative economic nirvana.

We must cut the head off the socialist dragon. The best way to do that is to take money from the poor and give it to the rich. We can't expect the rich to take it all for themselves without government help. The rich work as hard as they can, but can't quite seem to get it all. That's what government is for---to help those who try hard, but can't do it all themselves.
Too late. The idea is already in place. We'll soon be forcing those who can't afford to buy insurance to buy it or be fined. Then, when they can't afford the fine (duh), we will throw them in jail with pedophiles, rapists, and murderers. Then we will spend our tax money supporting them in prison, rather than allowing them to continue in their low-paying jobs and support themselves. Yes, this all makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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The media and politicians are always pandering and telling us that Americans are the hardest working people in the world. Yes, some Americans are very hard working and there are lots of impressive people in our country. But in general I find most people I meet to be very lazy. In fact I come in contact with more lazy people all the time. I teach at a college in the evening and so many students are lazy and will do the absolute minimum to pass. During the day I work as a manager at a very good company and we are constantly having trouble with lazy employees who lack creativity, skills and drive.

Do you believe that Americans of all ages are becoming lazy and are Americans still the hardest working people in the world?
Take away the freebies and see how hard Americans will work... Why work hard if the government (tax payers) are going to feed and house you?....
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Take away the freebies and see how hard Americans will work... Why work hard if the government (tax payers) are going to feed and house you?....
That won't help--the lazy will just complain that their freebies are gone, just like the rich complain about how much they pay in taxes.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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That won't help--the lazy will just complain that their freebies are gone, just like the rich complain about how much they pay in taxes.
Got that right!
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Take away the freebies and see how hard Americans will work... Why work hard if the government (tax payers) are going to feed and house you?....
Exactamundocorrecto!!!!!!
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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That won't help--the lazy will just complain that their freebies are gone, just like the rich complain about how much they pay in taxes.
Exactaincorrecto. They will start seeking employement as soon as the pantry runs low.

I think everyone complains about how much they pay in taxes, and the rich, who pay so much more than the average (in absolute and relative terms) have far more rights to do so than the average Joe or Josephine does.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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The difference between a workaholic and an alcoholic is indistinguishable.
the difference between the above post and a pile of manure is indistinguishable.

Last edited by semperarmati; 04-26-2010 at 10:13 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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Bascially because it is possible to survive without doing much now days. There is a sense of entitlement but many work very hard now days.
So true, so very true. End Welfare - No Parasites
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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You can't seriously call it "work" when you haven't moved a muscle. Work takes physical exertion. Mental exercise is NOT work.
Put your intellectual diaper back on, cause you're leaking BS again.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
Here's the chart, which is not in text format, so I can't paste it---
http://www.fundmasteryblog.com/wp-co...diem-notax.jpg

We really have to lean on all those lazy people making under $10K and make them pay their share of the tax. You know, kids saving for college and babysitting or mowing lawns. Sock it to them. Never mind the 1/3 of the population that makes $30-75K, who pay no taxes. They're obviously not lazy, so they are justified in not paying any tax. And the one person out of 70 who makes a million dollars and pays no tax, why should he be expected to carry part of the burden? He's certainly not lazy.

You know, you're all right. Instead of taxing income, we should tax laziness. Let's say $100 a day for every day that you don't go to work. If you go to work that day, you pay no tax. Just the people who stay home. Let's see, ten million unemployed, would $365-billion, just from the suckers looking for jobs that don't exist. If you counted everyone, students, retireees, everyone, you could easily rake in a trillion, and people working would pay no tax at all. Enough to bail out two or three investment banks. A conservative economic nirvana.

We must cut the head off the socialist dragon. The best way to do that is to take money from the poor and give it to the rich. We can't expect the rich to take it all for themselves without government help. The rich work as hard as they can, but can't quite seem to get it all. That's what government is for---to help those who try hard, but can't do it all themselves.
When states or municipalities etc., want to raise a large sum of money for a new sewer plant, hospital, school building program, etc., they often do so by selling bonds, which pay interest and principle to the buyer.

In order to make these bonds more affordable (pay a lower divident rate), Congress passed a law allowing the Interest earned by bond-purchasers to be non-taxable, so it is a trade-off. The bond-issuer (city, state etc.) gets a more-affordable lower interest rate bond, while the tax-exempt status allows investors to recoup the loss due to lowered interest rate. Depending on your tax bracket, it can develop a higher "yield".

If you did away with the tax-exempt status, the cities would have to pay a higher intertest rate for the money they borrow via the bond-sale, or nobody would purchase them since they would have a lower interest rate and no tax exemption.

Now you know the rest of the story.
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