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This is what I call a fantastic argument, so sound.
I know...I know...what can I say...especially when its 28 degrees this morning in Boston...and its only October 20... I know...I know..ITS CLIMATE CHANGE SILLY...whatever...)
I know...I know...what can I say...especially when its 28 degrees this morning in Boston...and its only October 20... I know...I know..ITS CLIMATE CHANGE SILLY...whatever...)
This is an even more compelling argument: it is cold in Boston! How could I have missed that?
Well in NYC, today's temperatures will be: high: 69F, low 50F. The average daily temperatures for NYC on October 20 are: high: 61F, low: 45F.
Would I ever argue from these numbers that the climate is changing? NO.
This is an even more compelling argument: it is cold in Boston! How could I have missed that?
Well in NYC, today's temperatures will be: high: 69F, low 50F. The average daily temperatures for NYC on October 20 are: high: 61F, low: 45F.
Would I ever argue from these numbers that the climate is changing? NO.
Whatever...sorry..but I do not believe in man made climate change
Where I live ( central Minnesota) the global warming threat was that temps would rise and crops would be moving further and further north due to the warming.
Really?
Most farmers are planting shorter day maturing corn than they were 25 years ago.
The 2nd year in a row that very little corn is harvested by Oct 20 due to the cool weather, late maturing, and too high moisture content in the corn.
We used to combine corn full blast in early October.
The last 2 years was November
If global warming keeps up, we won't be combining til December cuz we didn't have enough heat for the corn to mature.
I have never witnessed a snowfall that covered the ground thick, stayed for 3 days, and the trees were still full of green leaves.
I have never witnessed an entire day when the mid October temp only was 29.
Never in my 64 years !( before last week)
KSTP TV just said this October is shaping up to be the coldest October on record in Minnesota.
And global warming alarmists were proclaiming temps rising in MN and its affect on agriculture?
Whatever...sorry..but I do not believe in man made climate change
No apology necessary. As you say, these are your beliefs. But please, don't use strings of "lol" or yesterday's temperature in Boston as arguments to back up your beliefs.
No apology necessary. As you say, these are your beliefs. But please, don't use strings of "lol" or yesterday's temperature in Boston as arguments to back up your beliefs.
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Can we please stop using our local weather and temps to portrait global patterns? The discussion is on global warming, not Boston warming.
I don't buy into all of the climate change hype, but I still think it is foolish to use local temperature swings to portrait global climate trends. The graph posted above seems a bit more reasonable to me.
Can we please stop using our local weather and temps to portrait global patterns? The discussion is on global warming, not Boston warming.
I don't buy into all of the climate change hype, but I still think it is foolish to use local temperature swings to portrait global climate trends. The graph posted above seems a bit more reasonable to me.
You might check a little deeper into the provenance of that graph. It purports to be based upon data from the satellite temperature data research done at the University of Alabama Huntsville. There are two scientists who lead that efforts John Christy and Roy Spencer. Christy has concluded that their data support anthropogenic climate change, Spencer is a skeptic.
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Originally Posted by John Christy for the A G U
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate system--including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons--are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Spencer
Contrary to popular accounts, very few scientists in the world - possibly none - have a sufficiently thorough, "big picture" understanding of the climate system to be relied upon for a prediction of the magnitude of global warming. To the public, we all might seem like experts, but the vast majority of us work on only a small portion of the problem
We have two collegues looking at atmospheric temperatures and coming to different conclusion. What they do agree on is this joint statement.
Quote:
Originally Posted by UAH Website
Link (http://www.uah.edu/News/climatebackground.php - broken link)
One of the hottest controversies in climate science is the apparent disagreement between temperature data collected by thermometers at the surface and the satellite dataset.
"Global" surface thermometer networks show a warming trend of approximately 1.7 degrees Celsius per century — about 3° Fahrenheit.
The satellite data show a warming trend of 1.4 C or about 2.52° F per century.
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