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Old 07-14-2021, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Most of the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated so we would expect the death rate to be lower in the remaining group that is probably younger and more healthy to begin with.
So the vaccines are apparently working! YAY! Lower death rates, lower hospitalizations, less common in vaccinated folks, milder disease in general - all that sounds like good news to me.

 
Old 07-14-2021, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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So the vaccines are apparently working! YAY! Lower death rates, lower hospitalizations, less common in vaccinated folks, milder disease in general - all that sounds like good news to me.
Hopefully that will continue. Hospitalizations have been rising.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Hopefully that will continue. Hospitalizations have been rising.
As of July 3rd, it looks like the hospitalization rates nationwide were still way down and not increasing:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Filtering the data by age cohort, there was an increase in the 12-17 age cohort during March and April as Walensky claims BUT the trend in that age cohort has been downward ever since then (from 1.5 per 100K on May 1st to 0.4 per 100K on July 3rd). And overall the hospitalization rates are down across all cohorts -- as is the death rate. This came out in June, just after the peak in the 12-17 cohort:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...in-adolescents

Are other sources reporting something else?

CDC hospitalization data for the 12-17 cohort:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/181869.../shares/w0xW18
 
Old 07-14-2021, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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As of July 3rd, it looks like the hospitalization rates nationwide were still way down and not increasing:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

Filtering the data by age cohort, there was an increase in the 12-17 age cohort during March and April as Walensky claims BUT the trend in that age cohort has been downward ever since then (from 1.5 per 100K on May 1st to 0.4 per 100K on July 3rd). And overall the hospitalization rates are down across all cohorts -- as is the death rate. This came out in June, just after the peak in the 12-17 cohort:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...in-adolescents

Are other sources reporting something else?

CDC hospitalization data for the 12-17 cohort:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/181869.../shares/w0xW18

Using a 14 day average, up 19% as of yesterday.

If you scroll down farther, it gives you the numbers on state basis.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

Down from where they were? Yes. On an upward trend? Also yes.
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:06 PM
 
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So the vaccines are apparently working! YAY! Lower death rates, lower hospitalizations, less common in vaccinated folks, milder disease in general - all that sounds like good news to me.

New cases have doubled in two weeks. Deaths are up 20%. Not good news. The UK which is our canary in the coal mine. Cases are up from 1900 a day to 36000 a day, where they were weeks ago and deaths have doubled. Israel has gone from 21 cases a day to 600. Deaths are still low. This virus is not going away and appears to be spreading more quickly now even where vaccination rates are high.
 
Old 07-15-2021, 06:56 AM
 
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New cases have doubled in two weeks. Deaths are up 20%. Not good news. The UK which is our canary in the coal mine. Cases are up from 1900 a day to 36000 a day, where they were weeks ago and deaths have doubled. Israel has gone from 21 cases a day to 600. Deaths are still low. This virus is not going away and appears to be spreading more quickly now even where vaccination rates are high.
I didn't say the virus is going away - I don't believe it is. I was talking specifically about what's happening in the US and in Texas where I live.

In the UK, I'm looking at the rolling 7 day averages, and thankfully deaths continue to be nearly flat, as they have been since May, so yay for that. I do believe that some of the newer variants are more contagious - hopefully they are also less lethal. So far it appears that way. So I stand by everything I said, which was this:

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Lower death rates, lower hospitalizations, less common in vaccinated folks, milder disease in general - all that sounds like good news to me.
 
Old 07-15-2021, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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Who cares? Just keep being healthy - taking your B/C/D, zinc, quercitin, etc. You'll be fine. Turn off the TV news, online news, etc. They're mostly controlled by pharmaceutical corporations. Live life! Be happy!
 
Old 07-15-2021, 09:17 AM
 
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Who cares? Just keep being healthy - taking your B/C/D, zinc, quercitin, etc. You'll be fine. Turn off the TV news, online news, etc. They're mostly controlled by pharmaceutical corporations. Live life! Be happy!

Lol. The supplement makers only want whats good for you, I suppose?
 
Old 07-15-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Lol. The supplement makers only want whats good for you, I suppose?
A lot supplement manufacturers are owned by Big Pharma.
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:54 AM
 
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A lot supplement manufacturers are owned by Big Pharma.

Right! And there is sometimes little science behind their products.
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