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Old 10-08-2014, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Westeros
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?
You need to take a World History 101 class at your local community college, Doc.

The U.S. didn't get into WWII when Hitler invaded France.

We "got into it" because Germany declared war on us two days after the Pearl Harbor Attack.

Up till then we were merely supplying England with financial and materiel support through the "lend-lease agreements."

And it was England who declared way on Germany after it invaded Poland in the Fall of 1939.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?

First, don't ever forget, the concentration camps killed 11.5 million. 6 million were Jews, the other 5.5 million died equally and just as tragically.

Second, it wasn't that the us was so concerned about Jews as they were about entering a war. We had somewhat of an isolationist view despite Churchills and eventually Stalins hopes to the contrary. WWI was a mere 20-22 years prior. It was still fresh in our minds that we lost 50,000 soldiers in 6 months in that one. Almost the same amount we lost in the 3 year Korean war and 80 some percent of what we lost in Viet Nam in 10 years.

We simply did not want to go to war. Period. Not for Jews, not for patriotism, not even to help Great Britain. It was only after Japan humiliated us at Pearl Harbor that we decided we could no longer sit on the bench. It was not an ambivalent feeling towards Jews per se bu, rather, we simply abhorred war. We were also I'll prepared. Our service branches were dwindled, equipment out of date (P-40).

We would rather had avoided it while supplying Great Britain. Christ, Germany had subs come ashore prior to our declaration of war. Life was decent for Americans.

Then came Pearl Harbor and much like the World Trade Center aka 9/11, America changed overnight.
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Old 10-09-2014, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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The US let Hitler kill Jews for 10 years, and did almost nothing. The US got involved when Hitler invaded France. Did the US really worry about the Jews?
Antisemitism was rife around the entire world in the 1930's and 1940's. It wasn't that America didn't care about the Jews, the sad truth is that nobody did.

From: Voyage of the Damned - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Based on actual events, this film tells the story of the 1939 voyage of the MS St. Louis, which departed from Hamburg carrying 937 Jews from Germany, ostensibly to Havana, Cuba. The passengers, having seen and suffered rising anti-Semitism in Germany, realised this might be their only chance to escape. The film details the emotional journey of the passengers who gradually become aware that their passage was planned as an exercise in propaganda, and that it had never been intended that they disembark in Cuba. Rather, they were to be set up as Pariahs, to set an example before the world. As a Nazi official states in the film, when the whole world has refused to accept them as refugees, no country can blame Germany for the fate of the Jews.

The Cuban Government refuses entry to the passengers, and as the liner waits off the Florida coast, they learn that the United States also has rejected them, leaving the ship no choice but to return to Europe. The captain tells a confidante that he has received a letter signed by 200 passengers saying they will join hands and jump into the sea rather than return to Germany. He states his intention to run the liner aground on a reef off the southern coast of England.

Shortly before the film's end, it is revealed that the governments of Belgium, France, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom have each agreed to accept a share of the passengers as refugees. As they cheer and clap at the news, footnotes disclose the fates of some of the main characters, suggesting that more than 600 of the 937 passengers who did not make it to the UK ultimately lost their lives in Nazi concentration camps.
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