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Old 01-01-2021, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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So yesterday I had a guy in who was installing some cabinets for us. This was a project I would have had done months ago if not for the shutdown.

He seemed to be good at the work. I've no complaints about that. But as they day went on and we got a bit more talkative he made his political views known.

They were in total opposition to mine.
How dare he! Surely his political views would be completely comfortable for you if they were identical to yours.

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Pro tip: Be professional, people.
And you dealt with this highly unacceptable expression of one's views by rushing to your keyboard and letting us all know, for fear some other worker might in the future utter views in opposition to yours.

Sadly, not everyone in the trades reads City-Data Forum.
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Old 01-01-2021, 08:43 AM
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So yesterday I had a guy in who was installing some cabinets for us. This was a project I would have had done months ago if not for the shutdown.

He seemed to be good at the work. I've no complaints about that. But as they day went on and we got a bit more talkative he made his political views known.

They were in total opposition to mine.

Mind you, I didn't bring up politics but just said how happy I was to be getting this job done since I had to put it off. He said some pretty insulting things, thinking I was of the same mind. I kept my mouth shut about my opinions.

Well, any chance of me ever calling him back to do any work at my house went out the window right then and there.

Pro tip: Be professional, people.

This is the problem. You've now been put in a position, in your own home, where you cannot voice your own opinions without starting an unwanted argument or risking that this guy, who's already being unprofessional, will retaliate by doing a lousy job. It's never OK for someone else to invade your space and hold you hostage.
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Old 01-01-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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Does some good to get out of your bubble on occasion.
In this case someone entered the bubble and committed the ultimate offense.
Next time the poster should not talk to anyone they do not know personally as they may be subject to opinions they disagree with.
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Old 01-01-2021, 09:16 AM
 
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Anyone remember back when you could discuss differing opinions without getting triggered?
I was a vendor at a craft show when a very tall, imposing man came into my booth and began sounding off his views on immigrants. He lived in a nearby county which is known for having militia groups. His frequent refrain was "we have the power now".

Yes, I was " triggered ", but also fearful that this nut, who would know my home address by my business cards, would come out and ask me a direct question concerning my beliefs.
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Old 01-01-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Anyone remember back when you could discuss differing opinions without getting triggered?
People don't want to hear your opinion. They want to hear their opinion come out of your mouth.

I stole that.
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Old 01-01-2021, 10:21 AM
 
Location: East TN
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I've had this happen with workers in my home. I find it best to use the same tactic we use on a brother with offensive views. We abruptly change the subject, usually by asking a question on the new subject, so they have to answer on a this new topic. With a worker, that new topic would have to do with the job they are there to do. If they're smart, they'll realize what you're doing and stop yapping. If they aren't smart, they will probably not even notice, but are forced to steer their conversation to the work question you've just brought up. If that fails, I suddenly remember someone I must call, or something I need to do in another room.
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Old 01-01-2021, 10:54 AM
 
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I imagine my views would match most tradesmen. However, I still have never spoken politics with them. Usually I let them work and I hang out in the next room, within reach if needed, but not looking over their shoulder.
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:09 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I imagine my views would match most tradesmen. However, I still have never spoken politics with them. Usually I let them work and I hang out in the next room, within reach if needed, but not looking over their shoulder.
Yeah, it has always amazed me how many people on this forum just have random people, tradesmen, passersby on the sidewalk, fellow grocery shoppers, etc. just come up to them and start talking politics.

I'd call bull**** on them all except you know how everything you see on the internet is true.
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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So yesterday I had a guy in who was installing some cabinets for us. This was a project I would have had done months ago if not for the shutdown.

He seemed to be good at the work. I've no complaints about that. But as they day went on and we got a bit more talkative he made his political views known.

They were in total opposition to mine.

Mind you, I didn't bring up politics but just said how happy I was to be getting this job done since I had to put it off. He said some pretty insulting things, thinking I was of the same mind. I kept my mouth shut about my opinions.

Well, any chance of me ever calling him back to do any work at my house went out the window right then and there.

Pro tip: Be professional, people.
Well, in my mind doing a good job at what a tradesman is hired to do is more important to me than his/her political views, so if I needed similar work in the future I would not hesitate to hire that person again. Though listening to lengthy political discourses, especially if they are on the "other side" of my perspectives on the topics would be somewhat annoying, I would take nothing anyone says personally enough to get insulted. But then, I do believe others have a right to their perspectives.
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:12 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I imagine my views would match most tradesmen. However, I still have never spoken politics with them. Usually I let them work and I hang out in the next room, within reach if needed, but not looking over their shoulder.
I can't recall having anyone who did work for us bring up the subject of politics either.
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