Why do we have a public elementary school named Woodrow Wilson Montessori? (Houston: middle-class, 2014)

[Vicman]

I disagree with the renaming of Lanier but agree w the others.

Anyway Wilson did do the diplomacy in the 1910s, so he was indeed racist, but not sure if it will be enough to remove the name from the school. Maybe in 20 years it'll be revisited?

Originally Posted by hbcu

When TSU was founded it was the only public school in the area and they were supposed to be founded and funded as an African American University of Texas. It took off quicker than expected and they were beginning to make inroads with other minority groups and UH was quickly converted from public to private to stymie growth.

I'm aware desegregation did hurt black institutions, but it was for the best. TSU was formed from the Houston College for Negroes to try to stymie desegregation.

[hbcu]

Originally Posted by Vicman

I disagree with the renaming of Lanier but agree w the others.

Anyway Wilson did do the diplomacy in the 1910s, so he was indeed racist, but not sure if it will be enough to remove the name from the school. Maybe in 20 years it'll be revisited?



I'm aware desegregation did hurt black institutions, but it was for the best. TSU was formed from the Houston College for Negroes to try to stymie desegregation.

Hard to say for the best when it basically opened doors for others to prosper when folks just wanted equality. Look at all the public schools that got closed as a result also

[Swizzle Stick]

Almost every white person prior to the 1960's was racist. This is a poorly disguised excuse to erase white history and replace it with black mythology as revenge.

100 years from now, our great grandkids will learn that white people contributed nothing to society, or the advancement of western civilization, but instead we will be painted as oppressive parasites

[Swizzle Stick]

Originally Posted by kreeyax

"Cleansing", wow. I guess we should just burn all the books, destroy all the statues, sack the museums too. Nothing to learn from history, folks. Just erase it.

This is what ISIS did to the Roman (oppressor) ruins at Palmyra, and what BLM is currently doing to relic statues in the Bristol, UK.

This is the first part of the big "ask" that's coming at the expense of anglo people in the name of social justice. Piece at a time, starting the grinding down of white privilege... then public apologies, then comes the asking of money in the form of reparations, then "defunding" police and redistributing the money to minority communities via corrupt programs, then the increased welfare state with ethnic quotas will follow. Like a frog slowly boiled.

[timtemtym]

fascinating thread! We are moving into a home close to that school soon. I didn't know that about Wilson. There is a Woodrow Wilson blvd. in the Hollywood hills in LA. I've heard no talk about renaming it.

[aab7855]

Ah, the irrational fear of the "other". Some of yall are so insecure.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by WRM20

There was a lot of anger over renaming Lanier, since Sidney Lanier wasn't a Confederate hero or big player in the Confederacy. A lot of that anger was driven by the awful manner in which Jolanda Jones, one of the more crappy politicians we have in the area, ramrodded the whole renaming thing through with little public input and lots of fake anguish.

I din't have any real heartburn over Davis, Lee, Johnston, or Jackson being renamed. Dowling was a little iffy, but renaming Reagan and Lanier was really annoying.



UH is not a private school. It is a public funded University.

What do you mean by forcing folks to attend schools they had no business attending?

Dick Dowling was an inspirational story. An Irish immigrant lead 50 soldiers to stop an invasion fleet of 5,000.

Of course, he WAS a Confederate and that was mainly what he was known for.

What the board didn't know is that Dowling was opened roughly the same time Montgomery Elementary, one of its feeders was opened, both were predominately white and Montgomery was named after a Black janitor who died helping students get out of Kolter (?think it was Kolter) elementary when a separated parent brought a bomb. Two inspirational stories.

[Vicman]

Dick Dowling would have been inspirational had he fought on the morally right side. He didn't.

There were "admirable" soldiers fighting for Nazi Germany. They fought on the wrong side and were punished (there are cases like John Rabe, who stopped massacres of Chinese in Nanjing, but other than him...)

Originally Posted by bu2

Dick Dowling was an inspirational story. An Irish immigrant lead 50 soldiers to stop an invasion fleet of 5,000.

Of course, he WAS a Confederate and that was mainly what he was known for.

What the board didn't know is that Dowling was opened roughly the same time Montgomery Elementary, one of its feeders was opened, both were predominately white and Montgomery was named after a Black janitor who died helping students get out of Kolter (?think it was Kolter) elementary when a separated parent brought a bomb. Two inspirational stories.

Robert E. Lee High School was renamed after Margaret Long Wisdom, a white lady https://wisdomhsnews.com/565/news/wh...t-long-wisdom/

There are times when it went too far, but only Sidney Lanier was the case in Houston.

The solution is to move forward with taking down Confederate names and monuments but stopping cases that are too far. 98% of the renames are justified.

Originally Posted by Swizzle Stick

Almost every white person prior to the 1960's was racist. This is a poorly disguised excuse to erase white history and replace it with black mythology as revenge.

100 years from now, our great grandkids will learn that white people contributed nothing to society, or the advancement of western civilization, but instead we will be painted as oppressive parasites

[Elaine18]

I went there for summer school when it was Wilson Elementary.

[houston-nomad]

Originally Posted by Swizzle Stick

Almost every white person prior to the 1960's was racist. This is a poorly disguised excuse to erase white history and replace it with black mythology as revenge.

100 years from now, our great grandkids will learn that white people contributed nothing to society, or the advancement of western civilization, but instead we will be painted as oppressive parasites

Wow. I'm not sure why you're concerned about history being erased, when you clearly haven't read much of it anyway.

OK, but seriously. Let me reiterate a point I made earlier in the thread. Removing someone's name from a school does not erase history. Instead, it says, "We will not honor this person who caused pain and suffering to people because of his racist beliefs/acts/policies, and contributed to the racist legacy that continues to cause pain and suffering. You may read about this person in your history books."

Why not honor a scientist? An educator? Or someone like Harriet Tubman, who risked her life to save many others? Give kids someone to be proud of. Leave the racist politicians to the dusty history books.

I'd rather read a true account of history, no matter what it says, than one that says "white people were great, period."