Crime in Houston is out of control... (Dallas, San Antonio: townhouses, buying)

[Redlionjr]

Just thought I'd revisit this thread but even though crime is a real concern everyone should be aware of once you step away from threads like this and the news, the issue becomes more of an afterthought. It's not like constantly talking about it online is making any difference whats so ever. I'm convinced at this point it becomes trauma porn.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Actually it's Dallas that got a lot safer over the past year. FW is getting worse but still below the other major cities by rate. Austin is doing particularly bad with the highest increase but Houston leading the pack with the worst rate: https://thetexan.news/austin-houston...iggest-cities/

NYC is much more gentrified than Houston as well as Dallas. That’s a big reason that it’s safer there. As Houston and Dallas continue gentrifying, they’ll lower in national comparison. Dallas will achieve near total gentrification before Houston will because it’s a lot smaller.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

Just thought I'd revisit this thread but even though crime is a real concern everyone should be aware of once you step away from threads like this and the news, the issue becomes more of an afterthought. It's not like constantly talking about it online is making any difference whats so ever. I'm convinced at this point it becomes trauma porn.

I have a feeling you read this thread all the time and the data is consistently proving some other folks right that yes, the bond issue is a big reason for the particular uptick in violent crime for the Houston area. What talking online about it does is make people more aware of it who might pass through and read, and if they're in Harris County that could effect their voting position later on.

You don't have to go for the touchdown every time. Even just a handful of yards works as you try to get the next first down. That's all this thread is. Rushing for a couple yards but it's still a positive as it brings more awareness to a rising issue. Besides what you're essentially saying is why talk about anything online because none of it matters right? Why have thousands of posts on some city-data forum if talking online does nothing?

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

NYC is much more gentrified than Houston as well as Dallas. That’s a big reason that it’s safer there. As Houston and Dallas continue gentrifying, they’ll lower in national comparison. Dallas will achieve near total gentrification before Houston will because it’s a lot smaller.

Dallas also had a spike last year though and won't ever achieve total gentrification IMO. You brought up NYC and they basically exported their crimes to other areas. Sometimes entirely different MSAs. Same thing with Chicago. When Houston and Dallas go through gentrification, people are more likely to stay relatively close to the area due to the lower COL and the fact that a lot of them moved to Houston for that better opportunity anyways.

[detachable arm]

Houston “gentrifying”? The inner loop gentrification project is complete. Outside of that, whites are moving out of Houston and Harris county as a whole.

[utche96]

Originally Posted by detachable arm

Houston “gentrifying”? The inner loop gentrification project is complete. Outside of that, whites are moving out of Houston and Harris county as a whole.

As Work from Home becomes more common, this trend will accelerate. As a long-term Houston resident, I have grown tired of the overcrowding, excessive traffic, never ending construction, surging violent crime, etc. Finally decided to pick up and move to the burbs for the next school year.

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by utche96

As Work from Home becomes more common, this trend will accelerate. As a long-term Houston resident, I have grown tired of the overcrowding, excessive traffic, never ending construction, surging violent crime, etc. Finally decided to pick up and move to the burbs for the next school year.

Overcrowding? You'll have to work a lot to defend that one. So there's more townomes and big apartment buildings in the middle of the city than there used to be - what a shock! And they're even doing them outside the Loop, and even the Beltway on the west side - how horrible! Please. As if Houston has even remotely become a dense city by worldwide urban standards (or even U.S. standards).

And name me a successful urban center that doesn't have traffic. In fact, in Houston, until recently, traffic was often WORSE in the suburban areas than in the center of the city, and it's still often equally as bad.

And never ending construction - um, have you been to a suburb lately?

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

Overcrowding? You'll have to work a lot to defend that one. So there's more townomes and big apartment buildings in the middle of the city than there used to be - what a shock! And they're even doing them outside the Loop, and even the Beltway on the west side - how horrible! Please. As if Houston has even remotely become a dense city by worldwide urban standards (or even U.S. standards).

And name me a successful urban center that doesn't have traffic. In fact, in Houston, until recently, traffic was often WORSE in the suburban areas than in the center of the city, and it's still often equally as bad.

And never ending construction - um, have you been to a suburb lately?

Save that energy lol. You’re making too much sense for them.

[usc619]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

I have a feeling you read this thread all the time and the data is consistently proving some other folks right that yes, the bond issue is a big reason for the particular uptick in violent crime for the Houston area. What talking online about it does is make people more aware of it who might pass through and read, and if they're in Harris County that could effect their voting position later on.

You don't have to go for the touchdown every time. Even just a handful of yards works as you try to get the next first down. That's all this thread is. Rushing for a couple yards but it's still a positive as it brings more awareness to a rising issue. Besides what you're essentially saying is why talk about anything online because none of it matters right? Why have thousands of posts on some city-data forum if talking online does nothing?


Dallas also had a spike last year though and won't ever achieve total gentrification IMO. You brought up NYC and they basically exported their crimes to other areas. Sometimes entirely different MSAs. Same thing with Chicago. When Houston and Dallas go through gentrification, people are more likely to stay relatively close to the area due to the lower COL and the fact that a lot of them moved to Houston for that better opportunity anyways.

Thank you

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by utche96

As Work from Home becomes more common, this trend will accelerate. As a long-term Houston resident, I have grown tired of the overcrowding, excessive traffic, never ending construction, surging violent crime, etc. Finally decided to pick up and move to the burbs for the next school year.

Well you said you're moving to the burbs for the next school year, so I'm assuming you're apart of the group of people who would be moving out there anyway once their kids grew up. WFH might make Houston more attractive as people leave expensive metros. There was someone in my company who moved from the Bay Area to Houston recently and keeping his Bay Area salary. You'll see more of this which is why I don't think the nicer areas of the inner loop will decline. The areas to keep an eye on are the first and second ring suburbs.

[utche96]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

Overcrowding? You'll have to work a lot to defend that one. So there's more townomes and big apartment buildings in the middle of the city than there used to be - what a shock! And they're even doing them outside the Loop, and even the Beltway on the west side - how horrible! Please. As if Houston has even remotely become a dense city by worldwide urban standards (or even U.S. standards).

And name me a successful urban center that doesn't have traffic. In fact, in Houston, until recently, traffic was often WORSE in the suburban areas than in the center of the city, and it's still often equally as bad.

And never ending construction - um, have you been to a suburb lately?

Look I lived in Houston for 42 years. I have nothing against the city. But the city has become much more crowded over the past decade. Not saying that its anyone's fault. It's expected since the Houston economy has been strong. That said, I personally am tired of it.

And you guys are smoking something if you haven't noticed the non-stop and inefficient construction around town. Fountainview has been under construction for years! Then they shut off the Chimney Rock exit on 59 which directs all the traffic to Fountainview! It never freaking ends. The suburbs we have been looking at do not have anything close to the amount of road construction going on. Of course, my commute will be worse but given my company has moved to a hybrid schedule (work from home 2 days a week) it will make it more palatable.