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Three states were hard hit by the recession in areas employing the illegals. AZ, NV and FL. AZ lost 20% of its illegal population. NV and FL both lost 21%.
So what was the impact of the AZ legislation?
I am inclined to believe that this sort of legislation may scatter the illegals more but I don't think it makes them leave the US
You and your fellow illegal supporters don't think anything will make them leave the US. You think Americans should reward their criminal activities with American citizenship and all kinds of subsidies. Anytime those of us who are rational on this issue propose another course of action on this isssue, one that does not involve punishing the middle class or overcrowding schools in low income areas, you declare that course of action unpatriotic, unthinkable and unworkable.
NV, Olecapt, is in trouble because of multiple factors including a massive influx of illegals. It is not coincidence that the state with the nation's highest unemployment rate is also the state with the greatest number of illegals.
The facts are that illegals are only here for what they can get not what they can contribute. They're only interested in gaining American citizenship because it will give them access to the American welfare system. That's the last thing we should ever do.
You and your fellow illegal supporters don't think anything will make them leave the US. You think Americans should reward their criminal activities with American citizenship and all kinds of subsidies. Anytime those of us who are rational on this issue propose another course of action on this isssue, one that does not involve punishing the middle class or overcrowding schools in low income areas, you declare that course of action unpatriotic, unthinkable and unworkable.
NV, Olecapt, is in trouble because of multiple factors including a massive influx of illegals. It is not coincidence that the state with the nation's highest unemployment rate is also the state with the greatest number of illegals.
The facts are that illegals are only here for what they can get not what they can contribute. They're only interested in gaining American citizenship because it will give them access to the American welfare system. That's the last thing we should ever do.
They will have no where else to "scatter" to within our country if the SC rules in favor of these laws. Watch other states implement these same kinds of laws then. Adios, amigos! No costs involved with self-deportations.
Three states were hard hit by the recession in areas employing the illegals. AZ, NV and FL. AZ lost 20% of its illegal population. NV and FL both lost 21%.
So what was the impact of the AZ legislation?
I am inclined to believe that this sort of legislation may scatter the illegals more but I don't think it makes them leave the US
Isn't that the point, to scatter or get them to move on their own accord? If all the States were to enact legislation like that of AZ, GA, AL, etc, wouldn't many illegals scatter? Wouldn't they attempt to bypass the USA do to it not being as easy as it once was?
Isn't that the point, to scatter or get them to move on their own accord? If all the States were to enact legislation like that of AZ, GA, AL, etc, wouldn't many illegals scatter? Wouldn't they attempt to bypass the USA do to it not being as easy as it once was?
Nope it might lower the local concentrations a bit...if that.
NV lost more illegals than did AZ. NV did nothing other than have a lousey economy...which is what AZ also had.
So in that area at least it would appear that a bad economy scatters the illegals. I would rather have a good economy myself...and deal with the illegals in some other fashion.
Nope it might lower the local concentrations a bit...if that.
NV lost more illegals than did AZ. NV did nothing other than have a lousey economy...which is what AZ also had.
So in that area at least it would appear that a bad economy scatters the illegals. I would rather have a good economy myself...and deal with the illegals in some other fashion.
Nope? Really?! What was all the complaining about then? If you are using the report I think you are (PEW), it says it is a mix of both the economy and enforcement.
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Passel said the recent declines have been led by the departure of a significant number of Mexican illegal immigrants, who have traditionally made up the majority of the U.S. undocumented population. Experts say many may have returned voluntarily because of disparate work in the U.S. due to the down economy. But enhanced enforcement of U.S. immigration laws is also widely cited as an explanation for the decline.
Here is a Alabama article claiming it is the State Law that passed causing many to leave:
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Over a month after the nation’s toughest immigration law took effect in Alabama, hundreds of Hispanic students are still missing from the state’s public school system – and they are likely gone for good.On Monday, a whopping 1,807 Hispanics in the state didn’t show up to school, according to the number of student absences provided to POLITICO by the Alabama Department of Education. This is about 800 more than what was considered a normal absentee count among Hispanic youth before parts of the state’s immigration law were approved at the end of September. On Tuesday, the number was 1,540.
Nope? Really?! What was all the complaining about then? If you are using the report I think you are (PEW), it says it is a mix of both the economy and enforcement. Here is a Alabama article claiming it is the State Law that passed causing many to leave:
Let me project that to a 1000 kids gone. So 4000 people left. Let me presume they left the country.
So we are now down .035% of the illegal population. He get thirty more of those and we should be down 1%. No though...we probably get more than that in each year at this point.
But it is nice to know you rejoice in infinitesssimal reductions.
Let me project that to a 1000 kids gone. So 4000 people left. Let me presume they left the country.
So we are now down .035% of the illegal population. He get thirty more of those and we should be down 1%. No though...we probably get more than that in each year at this point.
But it is nice to know you rejoice in infinitesssimal reductions.
Why not do this in all 50 states. Note: instead of using the entirety of illegal aliens to assume your percentage why not use the illegal population of Alabama? So 1800 x 4 would be closer to 8000, almost twice as many as your claim, but then all those that are still leaving since, I would assume closer to a total of 12,000 persons in all.
Now times that by 50 states and we get to half of the entirety of illegals in the USA, not quite so infinitesimal is it?
Why not do this in all 50 states. Note: instead of using the entirety of illegal aliens to assume your percentage why not use the illegal population of Alabama? So 1800 x 4 would be closer to 8000, almost twice as many as your claim, but then all those that are still leaving since, I would assume closer to a total of 12,000 persons in all.
Now times that by 50 states and we get to half of the entirety of illegals in the USA, not quite so infinitesimal is it?
Actually that is 600,000. You slipped a decimal. or 5.2%.
You might also reread it.. The missing kids were between 500 and 800 or so. I over exagerated to keep you happy. I also used 4 people per family which was likely high. Well you could use the Alabama population which gets you all the way up to 3%. But at this point I would note they go to other states not out of country. So the US illegals population does not move at all.
Actually that is 600,000. You slipped a decimal. or 5.2%.
You might also reread it.. The missing kids were between 500 and 800 or so. I over exagerated to keep you happy. I also used 4 people per family which was likely high. Well you could use the Alabama population which gets you all the way up to 3%. But at this point I would note they go to other states not out of country. So the US illegals population does not move at all.
What do you think I've been saying? If all 50 states implement something on the scale of Alabama or Arizona we could get maybe half of the overall population to self deport rather simply. The average family is 4, some more than 4 to as many as 6. Don't forget all the farm laborers as well. So if all 50 states, like I said earlier, were to implement these bills, approx. half of the illegal alien population would scatter out of the US. You might want to re-read my previous comments.
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The tough illegal immigration laws implemented by the state are working. 
