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Old 03-23-2012, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't think this involves sermons. However, when the controversial AZ law was making headlines, one of the provisions included in the law was making (at least some) churches uncomfortable: a threat of prosecution by the state government for knowingly allowing "illegal aliens" to be around. A pastor explicitly took offense to that idea, suggesting that the church doors are open to all. And that was the best thing I'd heard from a church in a long time.
We already had our Church pretty much scatter the congregation with this type of policy.

 
Old 03-23-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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We already had our Church pretty much scatter the congregation with this type of policy.
I see a point to the pastor's point. If Jesus were restricted from crossing the boundaries, the idea would be to villify the obstructionists.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
I don't think this involves sermons. However, when the controversial AZ law was making headlines, one of the provisions included in the law was making (at least some) churches uncomfortable: a threat of prosecution by the state government for knowingly allowing "illegal aliens" to be around. A pastor explicitly took offense to that idea, suggesting that the church doors are open to all. And that was the best thing I'd heard from a church in a long time.
What I quoted was directly from the OP link and directly from the pastor of said church, hence why I questioned it. Why would a sermon cover illegal aliens or even be linked to them? There is nothing in the bible whatsoever that discusses illegal aliens. So, the equating out of context, Leviticus and a few other verses (stranger and alien), is what they attempt to use. Again, used out of context.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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I see a point to the pastor's point. If Jesus were restricted from crossing the boundaries, the idea would be to villify the obstructionists.
Jesus also followed the rule of law
 
Old 04-03-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Jesus also followed the rule of law
Debate based on either side of that contention would take an eternity, under a variety of interpretations...
 
Old 04-03-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I see a point to the pastor's point. If Jesus were restricted from crossing the boundaries, the idea would be to villify the obstructionists.
They are now freaking out that attendance is down and will actually have to close our sister church because of the policy.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Debate based on either side of that contention would take an eternity, under a variety of interpretations...
I think the 10 commandments are pretty clear and aren't up for interpretation.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I think the 10 commandments are pretty clear and aren't up for interpretation.
Being that the Ten Commandments are Mosaic Law ("eye for an eye"), and that Jesus specifically subjugated them under new proclamations ("Love thy neighbor as thyself"), your (note the correct form) reply doesn't address how this topic is playing out...

Even the Ten Commandments have had differing interpretations:

"Thou shall not KILL" vs. "Thou shall not MURDER"

This is going to be one long debate, and stands to offend a great many...

Are we going to argue from the perspective of a Protestant Minister, or from Catholic Church doctrine that a Priest is a representation of Christ (the specific reason they are always male) to their congregation?...

I don't even know if "The Rule of Law" can be defined without argument...
 
Old 04-03-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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Being that the Ten Commandments are Mosaic Law ("eye for an eye"), and that Jesus specifically subjugated them under new proclamations ("Love thy neighbor as thyself"), your (note the correct form) reply doesn't address how this topic is playing out...

Even the Ten Commandments have had differing interpretations:

"Thou shall not KILL" vs. "Thou shall not MURDER"

This is going to be one long debate, and stands to offend a great many...

Are we going to argue from the perspective of a Protestant Minister, or from Catholic Church doctrine that a Priest is a representation of Christ (the specific reason they are always male) to their congregation?...

I don't even know if "The Rule of Law" can be defined without argument...
I think the laws are pretty clear & what we know about jesus.

Its just some people refuse to see things black & white.
 
Old 04-03-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Debate based on either side of that contention would take an eternity, under a variety of interpretations...
Why would jesus break an immigration law?
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