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Does a Congregant need to seek out a church that they believe will support their views?...
The "Socially Acceptable" Nicene Creed:
"I believe that my church should feel exactly the same about social and political issues that I do"...
I'll say this: If I'm uneasy time and time again about a church, I'll move on. I went to one church that wanted amnesty for illegal aliens, was very offended.
Does a Congregant need to seek out a church that they believe will support their views?...
The "Socially Acceptable" Nicene Creed:
"I believe that my church should feel exactly the same about social and political issues that I do"...
For me, I would seek out a church that not only respects God's commandments but the rule of law in this country also. To sit in a pew in a church that doesn't share those views would be hypocritical. For example, I could never be a member of this Methodist Church of which this topic is about with them demanding that we stop using correct terms to describe illegal aliens in this country just to gain sympathy for these lawbreakers.
...You do not do things such as cross the border illegally by accident...
Using "the" suggests a singular border. Borders, plural, often can be all too easy to cross by accident. There has been more times than not that I have crossed a border, even "the" border with Mexico, and not been aware of it at the exact moment.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
...Let me see you walk in church & teach people with the approach & stance.
I am content to sit, usually the front row (which sometimes can be unnerving, as there is often a prompt for feedback). But then again, I am lucky enough to have an absolutely brilliant man doing all matters of teaching. Using "the" suggests a singular approach and stance.
While we are at determining how Jesus followed the "Rule of Law" (and considering that there isn't many recorded instances of Him being in a formal religious building, and no recorded events of Him ever teaching in one), and at no better time of year than this...
What, or whom, caused His death in regards to the law?...
I mean, He at least was some sort of economical rebel, and made what some considered (literally) outrageous claims against the religious and political structure of that time and place...
If He followed the "Rule of Law", why was He executed under the law?...
A murderer was even released / pardoned so that judgement could be put against Jesus...
Last edited by IBMMuseum; 04-05-2012 at 01:35 PM..
You emphasized purposely. No one in this world is perfect.
You do not do things such as cross the border illegally by accident.
That is why I said on purpose.
Let me see you walk in church & teach people with the approach & stance.
Accidently, ha. Accidently hire a Coyote. Accidently pay them 3-5 grand. Accidently walk across Mexico then the US crossing border fences and hiding from BP. Accidently getting into the trunk of a car. What a hoot.
Using "the" suggests a singular border. Borders, plural, often can be all too easy to cross by accident. There has been more times than not that I have crossed a border, even "the" border with Mexico, and not been aware of it at the exact moment.
I am content to sit, usually the front row (which sometimes can be unnerving, as there is often a prompt for feedback). But then again, I am lucky enough to have an absolutely brilliant man doing all matters of teaching. Using "the" suggests a singular approach and stance.
While we are at determining how Jesus followed the "Rule of Law" (and considering that there isn't many recorded instances of Him being in a formal religious building, and no recorded events of Him ever teaching in one), and at no better time of year than this...
What, or whom, caused His death in regards to the law?...
I mean, He at least was some sort of economical rebel, and made what some considered (literally) outrageous claims against the religious and political structure of that time and place...
If He followed the "Rule of Law", why was He executed under the law?...
A murderer was even released / pardoned so that judgement could be put against Jesus...
Impossible to not know you are planning to cross a border unless you are lost.
Impossible to not know you are planning to cross a border unless you are lost...
Or a border isn't marked (a few years back, the United States had to move some markers that were actually within Mexico), among several other possibilities. As said earlier, I've crossed borders by car and truck, on foot, by water, and by air. On most occasions, I was not even aware that I was crossing them.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
...They could not find anything Jesus did wrong
It's a relatively one-sided text you are sourcing (with vast amounts of translations and interpretations). Jesus definitely caused political and religious upheaval, which were against the authorities and administrators of the law of that land. We can revise history (and easily change images based on how we want to present them) to our liking, but Jesus was at a difference with the "Rule of Law" put in place at the time.
When discussion here has dismissed the past history of the United States, I find it ironic that "law" of a factor of ten or more times further back is treated as being more relevant...
Or a border isn't marked (a few years back, the United States had to move some markers that were actually within Mexico), among several other possibilities. As said earlier, I've crossed borders by car and truck, on foot, by water, and by air. On most occasions, I was not even aware that I was crossing them.
It's a relatively one-sided text you are sourcing (with vast amounts of translations and interpretations). Jesus definitely caused political and religious upheaval, which were against the authorities and administrators of the law of that land. We can revise history (and easily change images based on how we want to present them) to our liking, but Jesus was at a difference with the "Rule of Law" put in place at the time.
When discussion here has dismissed the past history of the United States, I find it ironic that "law" of a factor of ten or more times further back is treated as being more relevant...
Here is where you go wrong with your argument. Our immigration laws are not unjustified or morally wrong (aka the rule of law). They are in place to protect our own citizens. Funny, how I never hear criticizm of Mexico's immigration laws or any other country's but ours.
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