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Old 02-17-2007, 09:29 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Americans will do the work, but if Americans don't have to or want to because of physically demanding reasons and a very low income level, they won't.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:18 AM
 
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Americans will do the work, but if Americans don't have to or want to because of physically demanding reasons and a very low income level, they won't.
Well, this is a given statement but, when jobs are seasonal as in construction they always have a fall back onto something else. This is what you don't get and if all these jobs are taken then, there are no fall backs. You don't realize some people will do several different jobs as seasons change. Or hours are cut back.
The blue collar worker is very flexible and always will figure out how to make money. Don't give our jobs away!!
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:05 PM
 
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when jobs are seasonal as in construction they always have a fall back onto something else
Are you saying Construction is a seasonal work?
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:39 PM
 
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Are you saying Construction is a seasonal work?
Always has been, even in CA. How much framing, foundation, brick laying, roofing, window installing, painting, siding installation, grading, road work, concrete, or outside trim work can you do in the rain?
How much do you think they are getting done in the north east right now with all that snow?
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:50 PM
 
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Are you saying Construction is a seasonal work?
Yes, Yes, Yes, Like RedNC said the weather has a lot to do with weather you work or not. I live were we get snow and come Jan-March everything is frozen solid to the ground. It can be so slippery roofers can't get on the roofs. Also, there are stages to building my husband is a finish carpenter and that is near the end of building so, there are times when it could be 2 months in between but, he knows enough about construction and ceramic tile installing that we can find other work and we own our own business.

But, this can be even worse for a younger man starting out because, he will have to do the lower end of the trade to get his start. Most don't just walk out there and start out as boss or near that status they are an employee just like your pizza delivery and you are at the bottom. If they are training for one trade they may have to do construction clean up when times are slow and if all the illegals are doing them then, they have no back up jobs. Do you see were we are going with this now???

Illegals are not only picking fruit and vegatables they are in a lot of trades that are hurting the lower class American. We must think of our citizens that want a better life then, driving a broken down car and not much to eat and entertainment is limited.
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:58 PM
 
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Are you saying Construction is a seasonal work?
Of course - like some farming jobs as well.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:34 AM
 
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In the Rain?! California only gets 8 inches a year. It's not difficult to complete construction in the rain. Construction is all year round. LOL. Why would it stop?! I see illegal immigrants in Utah doing Construction in the snow.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:42 AM
 
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RedNC,

In the Rain?! California only gets 8 inches a year. It's not difficult to complete construction in the rain. Construction is all year round. LOL. Why would it stop?! I see illegal immigrants in Utah doing Construction in the snow.
Construction work may go on year round in CA but it just doesn't in other parts of the country. Doing work on a roof in the rain would seem to be very dangerous to me. I live near Chicago and construction basically stops during the winter months. I am not real knowledgeable about the basics of construction but I believe you can't pour concrete when the temp is below a certain level. (someone correct me if this is wrong) Up North construction work is seasonal.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Construction work may go on year round in CA but it just doesn't in other parts of the country. Doing work on a roof in the rain would seem to be very dangerous to me. I live near Chicago and construction basically stops during the winter months. I am not real knowledgeable about the basics of construction but I believe you can't pour concrete when the temp is below a certain level. (someone correct me if this is wrong) Up North construction work is seasonal.
No it is true, in the colder climates there are parts of construction you cannot do. cannot pour concrete in rain and below certain temps, cannot roof in snow, framing in snow and ice is a no no so is installing trusses, but I am sure some illegals and those that hire dont care. In Oregon, the rain never slowed us down or we would all starve LOL but we scheduled so concrete was already poured.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:36 AM
 
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Construction work may go on year round in CA but it just doesn't in other parts of the country. Doing work on a roof in the rain would seem to be very dangerous to me. I live near Chicago and construction basically stops during the winter months. I am not real knowledgeable about the basics of construction but I believe you can't pour concrete when the temp is below a certain level. (someone correct me if this is wrong) Up North construction work is seasonal.

Yup very true.

If it goes below certain temps, the concrete won't set right. And it will have to be done again.
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