The Dark Side of Diversity (medical, quotes, middle east, enemies)

[sheena]

Originally Posted by chloedog

Sheena,
Damn!! You had to go way back to find this one; I think you commenting on this post shows exactly how immature and ignorant that you are. By the way, what does a house house look like? I guess that's something only your rich mentally ill cousin can get?

Hold on my friend, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and I read up on you a little. I was being sarcastic and I was agreeing with you. I'm with you not against you. Money in the military? How stupid do you think I am? Don't answer. Anyway........

[Hopeless in GA]

Originally Posted by sheena

Yeah, I had a cousin that joined the military for the money, he risked a little mental illness and when he got out he had enough money to buy a house house in Malibu Canyon and a new BMW. Those are high paying jobs, people are literally dying to get into the military OMG

As a former army wife, I can assure you that your cousin wasn't getting paid much. Now, if he stayed single and socked all his pay away, he would make out pretty good in the end. But enlisted men make peanuts.
And sure, he bought a house with his veteran's benefits.

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by Kele

Since the massacre of 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech, the mainstream media have obsessed over the fact the crazed gunman was able to buy a Glock in the state of Virginia.

Little attention has been paid to the Richmond legislators who voted to make "Hokie Nation," a Middle American campus of 26,000 kids, a gun-free zone where only the madman had a semi-automatic.

It’s evident that a gun-free zone in a gun ho country isn’t the best recipe…

Originally Posted by Kele

Almost no attention has been paid to the fact that Cho Seung-Hui was not an American at all, but an immigrant, an alien. Had this deranged young man who secretly hated us never come here, 32 people would be heading home from Blacksburg for summer vacation.

What was Cho doing here? How did he get in?

Cho was among the 864,000 Koreans here as a result of the Immigration Act of 1965, which threw the nation's doors open to the greatest invasion in history, an invasion opposed by a majority of our people. Thirty-six million, almost all from countries whose peoples have never fully assimilated in any Western country, now live in our midst.

Cho was one of them.

In stories about him, we learn he had no friends, rarely spoke and was a loner, isolated from classmates and roommates. Cho was the alien in Hokie Nation. And to vent his rage at those with whom he could not communicate, he decided to kill in cold blood dozens of us.

What happened in Blacksburg cannot be divorced from what's been happening to America since the immigration act brought tens of millions of strangers to these shores, even as the old bonds of national community began to disintegrate and dissolve in the social revolutions of the 1960s.
To intellectuals, what makes America a nation is ideas – ideas in the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, Gettysburg Address and Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech.

But documents no matter how eloquent and words no matter how lovely do not a nation make. Before 1970, we were a people, a community, a country. Students would have said aloud of Cho: "Who is this guy? What's the matter with him?"

Teachers would have taken action to get him help – or get him out.
Since the 1960s, we have become alienated from one another even as millions of strangers arrive every year. And as Americans no longer share the old ties of history, heritage, faith, language, tradition, culture, music, myth or morality, how can immigrants share those ties?

Many immigrants do not assimilate. Many do not wish to. They seek community in their separate subdivisions of our multicultural, multiracial, multiethnic, multilingual mammoth mall of a nation. And in numbers higher than our native born, some are going berserk here.

The 1993 bombers of the World Trade Center and the killers of 9-11 were all immigrants or illegals. Colin Ferguson, the Jamaican who massacred six and wounded 19 in an anti-white shooting spree on the Long Island Railroad, was an illegal. John Lee Malvo, the Beltway Sniper, was flotsam from the Caribbean.

Angel Resendez, the border-jumping rapist who killed at least nine women, was an illegal alien. Julio Gonzalez, who burned down the Happy Land social club in New York, killing 87, arrived in the Mariel boatlift.

Ali Hassan Abu Kama, who wounded seven, killing one, in a rampage on the observation deck of the Empire State Building, was a Palestinian. As was Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy.

The rifleman who murdered two CIA employees at the McLean, Va., headquarters was a Pakistani. When Chai Vang, a Hmong, was told by a party of Wisconsin hunters to vacate their deer stand, he shot six to death. Peter Odighizuwa, the gunman who killed the dean, a teacher and a student at the Appalachian School of Law, was a Nigerian.

Hesham Hadayet, who shot up the El Al counter at LAX, killing two and wounding four, was an Egyptian immigrant. Gamil al-Batouti, the copilot who yelled, "I put my faith in Allah's hands," as he crashed his plane into the Atlantic after departing JFK Airport, killing 217, was an Egyptian.

Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, the UNC graduate who ran his SUV over nine people on Chapel Hill campus and said he was "thankful for the opportunity to spread the will of Allah," was an Iranian.

Juan Corona, who murdered 25 people in California to be ranked with the likes of Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy, was a Mexican.

Where does one find such facts? On VDARE.com, a website that covers the dark side of diversity covered up by a politically correct media, which seem to believe it is socially unhealthy for us Americans to see any correlation at all between mass migrations and mass murder.

"In our diversity is our strength!" So we are endlessly lectured. But are we really a better, safer, freer, happier, more united and caring country than we were before, against our will, we became what Theodore Roosevelt called "a polyglot boarding house for the world"?

This sounds like a bunch of racist, xenophobic, fear and prejudice-inspiring mumbo-jumbo to me. And some of you guys accuse me of using the "race card"...

What about all the Timothy McVeighs out there? What about Columbine? Are those just "freak accidents"? Not so bad because they were done by your countrymen?

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by Kele

Just so you know, I am no more an immigrant than the decendents of those who crossed into this continent across the Bering Strait over 10,000 years ago. (Wait, I'm decended from them as well) My family may have immigrated LEGALLY at one time but I am not an immigrant. I am an American.

With all due respect, you are a product of multiculturalism, Kele; maybe you haven’t thought about it this way, but the White settlers who hunted down your people were against multiculturalism as well.

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by saganista

Perhaps you haven't delved sufficiently into those times to have recognized the parallels between colonial (pre-1776) US and subsequent (post-1788) Australian population histories. The agricultural endeavors that supported the colonies were all labor intensive undertakings. Estate holders did not do the work themselves. Demand for labor was so high that between half and two-thirds of all colonists who arrived here did so under terms of indenture, some voluntarily (as in with hope of avoiding certain starvation in England) and many under 'alternative sentencing' programs of the day. At first, convicted capital offenders were given the choice of execution or indenture in America, but with a continually rising demand for labor, significant numbers of other felons and petty thieves became eligible, and later mere debtors, orphans, and paupers as well. It was only when this supply of low-wage labor became totally insufficent to meet demand that the colonies turned to outright slavery on an organized basis to meet their needs.

Is it just me, or does this resemble what’s going on now with illegal immigration? History does seem to repeat itself.

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by fastfilm

Cards on the table-wise, I do wish criminal, incarcerated illegal aliens routinely would be deported: that actually would help both "sides" of the argument instantly. There would be less bad examples of particular foreign nationals, and less cost to local taxpayers for them.

Back to the dark side of non-assimilation, anecdotally but always backed up by so many more posters than me, which should be indicative of something of a universal situation. I live in Los Angeles in low-to-moderate income area. It used to be diverse, with people from everywhere in the world but who all spoke English. Since the demographic changeover after the 1994 earthquake, which jettisoned our professionals out of here, caused difficult to repair homes to go to foreclosure and planted goverment program new residents, who then rented to all their illegal relatives, our neighborhood has become a petri dish experiment of what goes wrong when all foreign nationals of one culture instead of many, half of whom are illegal, become the dominant demographic.

We now have neighbors who scream all night long outside of their houses, despite other neighbors' entreaties or even police intervention. We now have debris everywhere in a formerly house proud little neighborhood. We now have loose pitbulls, and many, many abandoned pets. We now have neighbors, the few who can speak English, shrieking back to everyone that they'll do exactly as they please and do everything exactly as they did in their "home country," because everything was better there except for American money! When, say, code enforcement laws are cited, they of course say they could f-k-g care less. We now have a horrendous graffiti problem, and a gang problem that has octupled.

This is all first hand stuff. Welcome to the L.A. of the non-rich. This is the dark side of aggressively ardent non-assimilation.

Outstanding post, and very illustrative.

[MOHIllbillyWoman]

Originally Posted by Uriah

So you are an American and ONLY an American...wow, I had NO idea?!? I mean I am an American...could call myself ONLY an American...but why would I? I prefer to embrace my ENTIRE heritage

You see, that is one of the main probnlems in this country these days. I am assuming that you also consider yourself a hyphenated American, meaning that you consider yourself (whatever)-American. If that is true then that is what makes youy different. I am one of those people that consider hyphenated Americans as not real Americans because it shows that you think of your original country more than America. I don't like Mexican-Americans, Aftican-Americans and etc. There are lots of Americans of Mexican descent or Americans of African descent. BTW, there happen to be many Caucasions that are Americans of African descent. I really think you are the one who has a very samll way of looking at the world.

Originally Posted by Uriah

Are all you republican conservatives, Nazi racist hillbillies? Unfortunately I think the answer is yes, the fact that their is a thread called the dark side of diversity is proof enough, and simply comical. So basically if you had your way this whole country would be nothing but white republicans am I correct? Now that really would be Hell. I think someone other idiot had an idea like that, and his name was Hitler, but then again you hillbillies have another Hitler running the white house today now don't you? Feel free to retort, as you bow down and pray to the alter of your holy dark lord George(I wish I could spell the names of half of the countries I terrorize)Bush!

You definitely proved how little you know about politics and the people of this country.

Please be sure to check my nickname. Yes, I am a hillbilly because my grandmo9ther was a Hatfield. And NO, I am not a republican or a damn Nazi. I am not a Democrat either because I consider both parties to be two sides of the same coin. You going on about Hitler also shows that all you know how to do is spew the political propaganda of some kind. It shows that you can't think for yourself and is old, about as old as calling everyone a racist or a bigot just because they happen to be agaonst illegals and are for the rule of law. You showed with this post that discussing anything with you is a lost cause because one is not debating you but debating who you happen to listened to or read recently and not real thoughts from you yourself at all.

BTW, you have not posted one piece of truth yet. Better luck next time, but I would never hold my breath since you have shown that you are not able to think for yourself.

[MOHIllbillyWoman]

Originally Posted by citigirl

There is a Dark Side to Diversity. Personally I think the word sounds like dirt in my ears and I always feel like spitting when I say it. Our ancestors came to America for a new life and those that followed dreamed of the greatest dream, being an American. The immigrants of today do not want to acclimate but make demands that we adjust to their culture! Try going to any country of any immigrant and make those kind of demands. You would likely be hinging from some lamp post. In fact it was recently in the news that Mexicans are the least likely to give up their Mexican citizenship. Most of these new immigrants have and probably never will have any loyalty to this country. United we stand, divided we fall. The oldest and most effective strength any people, nation our country could have. When it came to loyalty and standing up for America, there was no diversity, it was all for one and one for all.

Exactly correct an d that is what is wrong with this country these days, no assimilation and our government giving in to the immigrants, legal and illegal.

[MOHIllbillyWoman]

Originally Posted by MexicanGuy

Outstanding post, and very illustrative.

I am glad that you can see the dark side of what diversity is doing to this country. In all actuality, it happens to be your brethen that have decided to not assimilate and to just take what does not beloong to them and to literally creat nothing but havoc everywhere they go. How about telling them to come here legally and then become real Americans?

[macmeal]

Without taking sides here, I will only take this opportunity to chime in with my "cultural" take on this. This ENTIRE THREAD is no more nor less than a brilliant illustration of the fact that open-ended multiculturalism has never existed anywhere on earth, and these posts vividly show why it never will. Multi-racialism is fine--but multiculturalism simply can not work, because most cultures, at one point or another, have features that make them simply incompatible with other cultures---period. You can't have a "give-and-take" culture, if your next door neighbor has a "don't give, just take" one......and you can't have a culture of "let's all get along", if the guy across the street is saying "YOU get along--I'm going to look out for MY GROUP ONLY"....it just isn't possible to reconcile differences like this. SOMEONE is going to DOMINATE, in cases like this. It's just human nature.
What I find most disturbing about these posts is the recurring theme that says, "America has always been a nation of change--and it has always welcomed immigrants..therefore it must CONTINUE to change, and CONTINUE to welcome immigrants, REGARDLESS of the situation...there will never be a time, now or in the future, when America will NOT be required to change...So just DEAL with it !! There are really NO Americans at ALL, just a never-ending succession of various groups of immigrants. You'll all just have to get used to that fact !"
I notice that we are all "mad" at America--it isn't being "nice" enough to the many immigrants who come here (by the millions)...and it SHOULD continue to be "nice"--why?--because it"s ALWAYS BEEN nice, that's why !!--get it?--
Meanwhile, we never ask that Saudi Arabia, or Mexico, or South Korea, or Bulgaria be "nice"---why?---because that would sound STUPID !! These places have NEVER been "nice", or welcomed outsiders...why should they change now?...
Pretty sad line of reasoning, it seems to me..