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Old 10-25-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Well, if Illegal is a slur then the word criminal must be one too. Absurd.

The only way an Illegal is working is if they have stolen an identify or are getting paid without it being taxed. Both are criminal acts so EVERY Illegal already has two strikes if they are working here.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yes, I know he 'claims' to be a Black Latino. This is either a case of self-loathing, or dishonesty -- because he certainly doesn’t miss an opportunity to reach into his ‘black’ bag of insults.
I suspect that the one self identifies as a Hispanic, culturally speaking.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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False SS's are a Felony for starters which would land my American butt in Federal prison.
I suspect it would depend upon what you did with the falsified social security number. I doubt if all infractions are felonies. A felony is a fairly serious crime.
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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It can easily be used as an ethnic slur.
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How so?

Your either here legally, or your here illegally. How much more PC, do you want to get. Would drawing you a picture make it any clearer?
Remember, it's not an ethnic slur when used against an illegal immigrant who is OTM....only when applied to someone here from south of the border "without the necessary legal documentation."
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I suspect it would depend upon what you did with the falsified social security number. I doubt if all infractions are felonies. A felony is a fairly serious crime.
Being in possession of a fake ss card and/or using it to obtain employment, etc., is a felony in all 50 states, with a maximum prison sentence of five years.

Social Security Act §208
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Being in possession of a fake ss card and/or using it to obtain employment, etc., is a felony in all 50 states, with a maximum prison sentence of five years.

Social Security Act §208

It still makes me laugh that anyone could try and bend this to fit their agenda. It's a law and they need to follow it or they will be deported or incarcerated and no one will feel sorry for them. All of our laws are to be followed. Some seem to think it's the Burger King method of living but no, you can't have it your way.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I suspect it would depend upon what you did with the falsified social security number. I doubt if all infractions are felonies. A felony is a fairly serious crime.
In other words, if an illegal uses a stolen or fake SSN to support a family, it’s ok. Sorry, but there is no justification for theft or fraud. There are citizens in this country going through hell because illegals have stolen their SSN and have purchased cars, houses, and other items. Citizens are also being denied unemployment and medical benefits because illegals are using their ID. How do you pro-illegals defend such egregious behavior?
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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no, the purpose is finding a word that denotes an arbritrary characteristic that can be used as an offensive term.

being undocumented. being dark. being "big" (fat). it was not directed at you. dont know why you would think so.

and its something i myself have been called.

its not racism on my part. you are mistaken. but if you like i will use the word fat or fatty in my next analogy instead.

calling someone fatty might just be pointing out that someone is fat. but we know that it can be used by idiots to denegrate people. i thought i made that clear.


AND i love how you throw it on the parents of the taunted children.
it reminds me of a thread on the politics forum about the rainbow and how kids cant draw rainbows for the fear of being labeled gay.

people started blaming the gays for co-copting the rainbow, all the while ignoring the bigots who created lil monsters who would bully others for something as superficial as a rainbow (or skin color or ability OR suspected citizenship)

so tell me, how would you feel if your kid came home and told you the kids at school were calling him illegal?

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Why do you ALWAYS use some form of ‘black’ denigration as an analogy when you want to illustrate something racial? I would think that you would occasionally mention another race/ethnicity; given your constant whining that black folks are not the exclusive recipients of discrimination in this country. Or, was “darkie” intended for MY benefit?

You routinely accuse us of racism. Yet, you and your cohorts are generally the first to inject a racist comment into the discussion. Do you actually not realize your hypocrisy?

Parents who engage in criminal behavior are responsible for the taunting their children receive from their peers. If foreigners wish to be respected in this country, they should obey our laws. Otherwise, they are fair game, just as other criminals.

Illegal = Unlawful. As long as foreigners have an unlawful presence in this country, they will aptly be referred to as illegal aliens. Next, “undocumented’ will have a negative connotation, because it implies they are not the same as us – which they aren’t. Nothing short of equal status with citizens will be considered acceptable by pro-illegals. Sorry, but they ARE illegal.

The inculcation of “illegal = a racial slur” will not ultimately make it so. A lie remains a lie, no matter how often it’s repeated. Despite your best efforts, “illegal” will not become the new "N" word. The notion is utterly ridiculous.

BTW, your racism is duly noted.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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another person questions my heritage. what a suprise.

i use my own experiences to find parallels with different forms people slander and try to hurt eachother. thats all it is. if i was chinese i would probably use those metaphors and examples. i use my own life. speaking in truth thats all.

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Yes, I know he 'claims' to be a Black Latino. This is either a case of self-loathing, or dishonesty -- because he certainly doesn’t miss an opportunity to reach into his ‘black’ bag of insults.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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mixed, altho i did try on "Mutt", ALA Barry H Obama.


and i have been called a black bean*r. dont know if that was in reference to eating black beans, or bein a black/hisp (bean*r)
hmmmm

ultimately im an angelino.
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I suspect that the one self identifies as a Hispanic, culturally speaking.
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