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Old 02-21-2024, 06:02 AM
 
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oil and gas are not the same .

remember 2008 and covid , oil and gas plunged while gold went up
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Old 02-21-2024, 06:06 AM
 
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unless you are selling or mortgaging it doesn’t matter what it went up . you need loans in one form or another to get that money back out .

also by the time most homes are paid for along the way they can actually cost 2 to 3x the buy price because of the interest on the mortgage..over a 30 year mortgage at 6-7% the home can cost 3x the price once interest is added.

while many people trade homes over the years the tally for the interest paid along the way keeps kachinging .

so break even is usually far more than the purchase price.

so until a house is sold there isn’t much you can do with it except live in it which is an expense

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Old 02-21-2024, 10:36 AM
 
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unless you are selling or mortgaging it doesn’t matter what it went up . you need loans in one form or another to get that money back out .

also by the time most homes are paid for along the way they can actually cost 2 to 3x the buy price because of the interest on the mortgage..over a 30 year mortgage at 6-7% the home can cost 3x the price once interest is added.

while many people trade homes over the years the tally for the interest paid along the way keeps kachinging .

so break even is usually far more than the purchase price.

so until a house is sold there isn’t much you can do with it except live in it which is an expense

The house is for housing whether now or future long term care. It is a pot of money to deal with housing. It is optionality. I could sell it and use the proceeds to pay rent for the rest of my life. It covers a huge section of inflation.
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:39 AM
 
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The proper way to own gold is to own physical gold and I do not intend to deal with that and all that it entails. I have no access to GLD right now. I am not up on gold miners (which I understand is altogether different than owning gold).
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:47 AM
 
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I don’t own gold for any other purpose than a contrarian asset


No way do I want possession nor do I I want to own gold miners

They are not the same as gold. They are subject to earnings strikes management and everything else
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Old 02-21-2024, 11:03 AM
 
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I don’t own gold for any other purpose than a contrarian asset


No way do I want possession nor do I I want to own gold miners

They are not the same as gold. They are subject to earnings strikes management and everything else

I agree. That's why the inaccessibility of GLD to my 401k puts me in a conundrum. I won't be able to address that aspect. However, other commodities may be available in a mutual fund (integrated oil and gas companies, etc.). I know it's not the same thing.
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Old 02-21-2024, 11:37 AM
 
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dbc is a commodities fund i use from time to time . but different purposes then gold as you know
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Old 02-21-2024, 02:11 PM
 
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I wish there were etf's and stocks in the mutual funds window.
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Old 02-21-2024, 02:20 PM
 
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up day for the reaper
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Old 02-21-2024, 02:28 PM
 
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up day for the reaper
Whenever you say that, I think of the grim reaper.

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