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Old 11-07-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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If you insist the sky is green with yellow pinstripes, I will correct you, and that is not an ideology, regardless of how many times you tell me, and I have to correct you.

 
Old 11-07-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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If I am running around preaching a form of atheism, yes, that may be considered an ideology, however that is not what you will find with most atheists. and it does not define atheism.
Most atheists you will never hear from, and the ones you do hear from will only speak about it when religion is shoved down their throat.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Most atheists have no axe have to grind - there's is merely a lack of religious belief. In a secular society, talk of or 'analysis' of atheism would be moot, what would be the purpose of discussing nothing other than a lack of credence? In a religious society - we can assume that the congregants (and here I exaggerate to make a point) would think about and discuss nothing else.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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If Theism is a Doctrine/Ideology. what would be the opposite Doctrine/Ideology?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:faith, belief, worship, creed; Moresect, church, cult, denomination
"the freedom to practice their own religion"



  • a particular system of faith and worship.
    plural noun: religions
    "the world's great religions"

  • a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
    "consumerism is the new religion"


Atheism is precisely, Not that.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 12:22 AM
 
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:faith, belief, worship, creed; Moresect, church, cult, denomination
"the freedom to practice their own religion"



  • a particular system of faith and worship.
    plural noun: religions
    "the world's great religions"
  • a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
    "consumerism is the new religion"

Atheism is precisely, Not that.
That does not mean it is not an ideology or doctrine. Communism and Democracy are none of those either, but they are ideologies/ Doctrines

Religion is just one concept of what an ideology or doctrine is.

Even the concept of not having an ideology is an ideology.

The belief God does not exist, is just as much an ideology as the belief God does exist.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 12:46 AM
 
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Most atheists have no axe have to grind - theirs is merely a lack of religious belief. In a secular society, talk of or 'analysis' of atheism would be moot, what would be the purpose of discussing nothing other than a lack of credence? In a religious society - we can assume that the congregants (and here I exaggerate to make a point) would think about and discuss nothing else.
Couldn't edit -correcting typo 'theirs'.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 12:50 AM
 
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If Theism is a Doctrine/Ideology. what would be the opposite Doctrine/Ideology?
Re atheism, in and of itself, I'd say little more than an observation.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 12:59 AM
 
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That does not mean it is not an ideology or doctrine. Communism and Democracy are none of those either, but they are ideologies/ Doctrines

Religion is just one concept of what an ideology or doctrine is.

Even the concept of not having an ideology is an ideology.

The belief God does not exist, is just as much an ideology as the belief God does exist.
As I pointed out earlier, in a secular world a lack of belief in a god is a non event (it doesn't have to be a mantra, something consequential), in a religious society, a belief in god is always an event.
As for no plan being a plan - we're getting locked into essentially meaningless semantics here.
 
Old 11-08-2014, 06:08 AM
 
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If Theism is a Doctrine/Ideology. what would be the opposite Doctrine/Ideology?
Non-belief
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