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Old 03-10-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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If you think non orthodox judaism will be extinct in 50 years that's crazy talk.
It already is extinct with whatever "growing" numbers coming only from their acceptance of non-Jewish members as full-fledged members of their congregations. Assimilation is a tragic end for so many people who have gone through hellfire to keep their faith intact, only to have it abandoned by their children.

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Old 03-11-2015, 03:30 AM
 
Location: OC/LA
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I would say more like 200, but I wouldn't be so quick to call a different opinion "crazy."
In 200 years it might, but that's a really long time. 200 years ago there was still slavery in the United States.

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It already is extinct with whatever "growing" numbers coming only from their acceptance of non-Jewish members as full-fledged members of their congregations. Assimilation is a tragic end for so many people who have gone through hellfire to keep their faith intact, only to have it abandoned by their children.
Are you aware of what extinct means?
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:58 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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But with interviews like this, Shas (Hasidic/Haredi/Ultra Orthodox) shoot themselves in the foot.

The Jewish Press » » Aryeh Deri – Shas Will Expel Jews From Their Homes [video]
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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In 200 years it might, but that's a really long time. 200 years ago there was still slavery in the United States.



Are you aware of what extinct means?
Yes, I am. Thanks for asking.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:10 AM
 
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Yes, I am. Thanks for asking.
So you like to lie because...?
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Old 03-12-2015, 05:25 AM
 
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So you like to lie because...?
fwiw, you can't call them lies if the only education they have, is only from their community and are frum from birth. Their views will not be the same as people more worldly educated as yours. This is different than Ba'al Teshuvas who have worldly knowledge and deny their existence to make themselves sound like a frum from birth.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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it looks like that is the current trend.

nothing new. jews who leave judaism eventually disappear into the gentile population. you can see this already in france.
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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fwiw, you can't call them lies if the only education they have, is only from their community and are frum from birth. Their views will not be the same as people more worldly educated as yours. This is different than Ba'al Teshuvas who have worldly knowledge and deny their existence to make themselves sound like a frum from birth.
Imo ignorance is no excuse for spreading false information. If you aren't knowledgeable about a certain subject let someone else respond.
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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it looks like that is the current trend.

nothing new. jews who leave judaism eventually disappear into the gentile population. you can see this already in france.
This is sort of a tautology...
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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A yid is a yid. We love every Jew, because G-d loves every Jew, and we seek to emulate G'd's qualities.
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