[ND_Irish]

From the Las Vegas Review-Journal...

Water isn't a worry when it comes to Las Vegas Growth

Return flows deserve all credit for Las Vegas' water supply

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

From the Las Vegas Review-Journal...

Water isn't a worry when it comes to Las Vegas Growth

Return flows deserve all credit for Las Vegas' water supply

Not just the return flow credit though that certainly is important...but the whole placement of Las Vegas with respect to the dam. If it can't get passed the dam we get it all.

So we should gracefully grow to 3 million or so. Eventually it ends but not for a long time.

[NDJeff]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

From the Las Vegas Review-Journal...

Water isn't a worry when it comes to Las Vegas Growth

Return flows deserve all credit for Las Vegas' water supply

I've been trying to get people to understand this for ages. You don't really save any water with low flow shower heads or toilets. It's all getting treated in the wastewater facility and going back into the loop for someone else to use. Landscape irrigation and evaporation of pool water is where water is actually lost from the system.

All you are really doing with all that low flow BS is reducing the size requirements for the water treatment plants. You aren't really "saving" any water.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by NDJeff

I've been trying to get people to understand this for ages. You don't really save any water with low flow shower heads or toilets. It's all getting treated in the wastewater facility and going back into the loop for someone else to use. Landscape irrigation and evaporation of pool water is where water is actually lost from the system.

All you are really doing with all that low flow BS is reducing the size requirements for the water treatment plants. You aren't really "saving" any water.

There are losses and it is not any place near 100% so you still want to conserve particularly if it is easy conservation. But it does make the logic of cleaning up sewage for golf and park use rather dull. That does reuse the water but ends up with close to a complete loss.

[bayview6]

Originally Posted by lvoc

Not just the return flow credit though that certainly is important...but the whole placement of Las Vegas with respect to the dam. If it can't get passed the dam we get it all.

So we should gracefully grow to 3 million or so. Eventually it ends but not for a long time.

Wrong, Nevada would get about 270,000 acre feet a year regardless of what other States can get. The Vegas Valley would have a hard time getting to 2.25 million with the current water supply. The pipeline dream to the north is totally, totally dead.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by bayview6

Wrong, Nevada would get about 270,000 acre feet a year regardless of what other States can get. The Vegas Valley would have a hard time getting to 2.25 million with the current water supply. The pipeline dream to the north is totally, totally dead.

If you think that you lack understanding of Nevada politics and water law.

And if you want to see the pipeline occur instantly just cut off the return credit.

[Bps401]

Originally Posted by LuisSuarez

10 Percent of California’s Water Goes to Almond Farming a stunning 1.1 trillion gallons of water each year. It would not bother me if I never ate another almond in the rest of my life.

10 percent of California’s water goes to almond farming.

Check the stats on water used for meat, and this whole demonizing almonds becomes ridiculous.

Cows Suck Up More Water Than Almonds - Bloomberg View

Seriously, Stop Demonizing Almonds

Real villain in the California drought isn't almonds

[bayview6]

Originally Posted by lvoc

If you think that you lack understanding of Nevada politics and water law.

And if you want to see the pipeline occur instantly just cut off the return credit.

You are the guy who said that the Nevada Supreme Court would cover the back of the State Engineer. In two separate decisions the Nevada Supreme Court stated that the State Engineer would have to comply with the District Judge instructions. Since the State Engineer had previously stated that he could not make those determinations, it seems clear that the northern pipeline is not going anywhere. Moreover, the opponents of the pipeline have not even started on protecting their federal rights.

Anyway, the return credit is not going to disappear. There is no rational reason on this little green earth to remove it.

[UTES]

It's short-sighted to think water shortages won't impact Las Vegas. Even if the allocations to Las Vegas remain viable, it does not mean we will not suffer.

Keep in mind the surrounding states will have their economies hampered by water shortages. As we discovered during the last recession, Las Vegas is hit hard by only a 5% drop in tourism. A 10% drop - devastating. Which state provides us with the most tourists? Yep, California.

So, think twice before saying something like, "This is California's problem, not ours." If California is significantly impacted by water shortages, the Las Vegas economy will feel it. Like it or not, our fate is tied to our neighbors. Their water problems ARE our water problems.

Bill

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by UTES

It's short-sighted to think water shortages won't impact Las Vegas. Even if the allocations to Las Vegas remain viable, it does not mean we will not suffer.

Keep in mind the surrounding states will have their economies hampered by water shortages. As we discovered during the last recession, Las Vegas is hit hard by only a 5% drop in tourism. A 10% drop - devastating. Which state provides us with the most tourists? Yep, California.

So, think twice before saying something like, "This is California's problem, not ours." If California is significantly impacted by water shortages, the Las Vegas economy will feel it. Like it or not, our fate is tied to our neighbors. Their water problems ARE our water problems.

Bill

California can fix its water problems at any time to whatever degree it wishes. It has huge water resources. Agriculture still receives water at very low prices. CA can simply make that water or part of it salable which would pretty much solve the problems of at least the southern portion of the state. And that is the piece Las Vegas is sensitive to...