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Old 11-26-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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To be short, the guy got his green card through marriage, he never disclosed his kids he left in his home country neither to his new wife nor to the citizenship and immigration services. Later he divorced that wife, fathered a few kids with another woman and got his citizenship without mentioning the kids he abandoned in his home country. I believe it's a deportable violation. How to report it officially with proper acknowledgements and "notice of action" from USCIS? Can they just shrug it off without any acknowledgement or action?
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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I believe it's a deportable violation.
I believe you're misinformed. There is a link to the USCIS website in the first "sticky" on this page.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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I believe you're misinformed. There is a link to the USCIS website in the first "sticky" on this page.
Lying on application is OK? Good to know. And referring me to USCIS website, why do you bother replying and wasting all these bytes? It has no straightforward answer to my question.

On the second thought, here are search results from USCIS website:
Sorry, no results found for 'reporting fraud'. Try entering fewer or broader query terms.

Sorry, no results found for 'fraud'. Try entering fewer or broader query terms
So lying and fraud could be OK.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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It is USCIS and ICE job to detect and report fraud. It is too late unless ICE finds out. Give ICE a call, I doubt they will look into it though. I am pretty sure it is too late. Someone at USCIS and maybe ICE too if the marriage was questionable approved the application.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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ICE has a fraud hotline you can report fraud but they will not touch this, neither will USCIS. You can 't deport a US citizen. If he is already naturalized citizen, only the federal court can denaturalize someone and that is not done easily.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:46 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I don't think they can do anything if he's a US citizen. If he only had a green card and the five years weren't up it might be different. I'm not sure what the charges would be--not telling his new wife that he had kids? I do think I remember a place on the forms where you had to fill in the names of your kids so that would be lying. Don't know how big a deal that is though. Sounds like a scumbag.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:17 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Lying on application is OK? Good to know. And referring me to USCIS website, why do you bother replying and wasting all these bytes? It has no straightforward answer to my question.

On the second thought, here are search results from USCIS website:
Sorry, no results found for 'reporting fraud'. Try entering fewer or broader query terms.

Sorry, no results found for 'fraud'. Try entering fewer or broader query terms
So lying and fraud could be OK.
I thought (obviously mistakenly) you might be interested in looking over the immigration application forms on that site to see whether in fact they do ask for details about children for whom immigration is not sought.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:43 AM
 
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Do you have a score to settle?
The only child USCIS is interested in is one a parent wants to bring to the US. That the wives supposedly do not know about the children has nothing to do with his legal status.
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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I thought (obviously mistakenly) you might be interested in looking over the immigration application forms on that site to see whether in fact they do ask for details about children for whom immigration is not sought.
Citizenship application, N-400, requires to disclose all applicant's children, dead and alive, in whole universe. Sorry. Not supporting, not speaking of abandoning, your children virtually guarantees your citizenship application to be denied on the grounds of "bad moral character". Not disclosing all your children in N-400 constitutes a deportable fraud (of course, if they will catch that), I know because I've stumbled upon a similar case on USCIS website. BTW, I'm asking on behalf of other people, I have no personal emotions involved in this thread.

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Old 11-27-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Citizenship application, N-400, requires to disclose all applicant's children, dead and alive, in whole universe. Sorry. Not supporting, not speaking of abandoning, your children virtually guarantees your citizenship application to be denied on the grounds of "bad moral character". BTW, I'm asking on behalf of other people, I have no personal emotions involved in this thread.
How were you (or the "other people" you refer to) privy to the information the applicant completed on the N-400 questionnaire? Can you provide a citation to support the bolded assertion?
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