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Originally Posted by FishinDVM
MS-13, State Income tax, Property taxes going up and up and up to F*ing insanity, hating police officers, supporting criminals (early release, early parole, reduced sentences, the new no bail INSANITY nonsense policy of condoning criminality), LI either leads the US or is in the top 5 for every single possible source of draining your income (income tax, prop tax, highest family healthcare plan, highest childcare, highest traffic violation tickets, highest cost of eating out, highest rents, highest toll in the US (verrazano), speed cams, school cams, red light cams, etc... etc... etc...), people always list state income and prop taxes but NY CLEANS UP ON HIDDEN TAXES, the stuff at the end of the phone bill, cable bill, electric bill, etc... and LI just sucks, its cold, gray, miserable, overpopulated, horrible traffic, filled with *******s, has some epic cancer rates (breast cancer, Grumman, etc) and these stats dont even reflect the reality because they dont follow old people who move and get diagnosed in other states (which most people leave), no environment, they just trick you buy installing some trees between neighborhoods and highways, no freedom (you cant just pull over and walk to a beach, ita a $25 fee or you must be a member of some BS town with some BS annual fee, etc).... CORRUPTION, omg CORRUPTION, everywhere!!! Corruption!!!! Its not a right to work state, its all unions/pensions/public service, bunch of cops, teachers, firemen, LIRR, etc... DOZENS OF PEOPLE every year pulling over 200K for PUBLIC SERVICE work. Just look at the salaries for these public service jobs and pensions compared to other states!!! You cant fire them. The unions get together every year, "give us a raise, give us another raise" Give us a raise or your corrupt ass doesnt gets the union members votes, and the cycle of nonsense continues. Then the same people complain when their school tax goes up. Potholes for example, you got the same companies in there getting the state contracts for years and doing crap work, with 5 guys staring at a hole, no heavy roller machines to pack it down right, just packing in asphalt by hand and leaving. So the pot holes open again next winter and back they go having a "job"... Again, its not a right to work state so you cant just fire them and get people in who will do it right. look I can go on and on for days.... unless you are born and raised somewhere outside of long island you wont get it. It all seems "common and normal" to you. Its the worst of the worst. If someone from another state moves to LI they either leave immediately or become like an Orca trapped at seaworld (the fin folds over, they hang at the bottom of the tank, and moan in misery).
Rather than read all of that, the short answer is: liberalism. Then these people put in their 20 years, maxed out the last 2 years for maximum overtime/pensions (what a corrupt process that is anyways), then they immediately leave and continue voting for the same stupid policies in red states til they turn it purple.
MS-13, State Income tax, Property taxes going up and up and up to F*ing insanity, hating police officers, supporting criminals (early release, early parole, reduced sentences, the new no bail INSANITY nonsense policy of condoning criminality), LI either leads the US or is in the top 5 for every single possible source of draining your income (income tax, prop tax, highest family healthcare plan, highest childcare, highest traffic violation tickets, highest cost of eating out, highest rents, highest toll in the US (verrazano), speed cams, school cams, red light cams, etc... etc... etc...), people always list state income and prop taxes but NY CLEANS UP ON HIDDEN TAXES, the stuff at the end of the phone bill, cable bill, electric bill, etc... and LI just sucks, its cold, gray, miserable, overpopulated, horrible traffic, filled with *******s, has some epic cancer rates (breast cancer, Grumman, etc) and these stats dont even reflect the reality because they dont follow old people who move and get diagnosed in other states (which most people leave), no environment, they just trick you buy installing some trees between neighborhoods and highways, no freedom (you cant just pull over and walk to a beach, ita a $25 fee or you must be a member of some BS town with some BS annual fee, etc).... CORRUPTION, omg CORRUPTION, everywhere!!! Corruption!!!! Its not a right to work state, its all unions/pensions/public service, bunch of cops, teachers, firemen, LIRR, etc... DOZENS OF PEOPLE every year pulling over 200K for PUBLIC SERVICE work. Just look at the salaries for these public service jobs and pensions compared to other states!!! You cant fire them. The unions get together every year, "give us a raise, give us another raise" Give us a raise or your corrupt ass doesnt gets the union members votes, and the cycle of nonsense continues. Then the same people complain when their school tax goes up. Potholes for example, you got the same companies in there getting the state contracts for years and doing crap work, with 5 guys staring at a hole, no heavy roller machines to pack it down right, just packing in asphalt by hand and leaving. So the pot holes open again next winter and back they go having a "job"... Again, its not a right to work state so you cant just fire them and get people in who will do it right. look I can go on and on for days.... unless you are born and raised somewhere outside of long island you wont get it. It all seems "common and normal" to you. Its the worst of the worst. If someone from another state moves to LI they either leave immediately or become like an Orca trapped at seaworld (the fin folds over, they hang at the bottom of the tank, and moan in misery).
Rather than read all of that, the short answer is: liberalism. Then these people put in their 20 years, maxed out the last 2 years for maximum overtime/pensions (what a corrupt process that is anyways), then they immediately leave and continue voting for the same stupid policies in red states til they turn it purple.
You were good until the last paragraph when you went sheep and used the L word. Funny, I don't think many L's voted for Kate Murray and the GOP machine for 100+ years but there it is. Our problems are bi-partisan. Libs v cons is some mid 90's talk radio stupidity that keeps people from learning what their true interests are and who might best serve them. Instead they pick a team and go from a free thinker to a kool aid sheep, kind of like your post did.
[quote=FishinDVM;57258879]MS-13, State Income tax, Property taxes going up and up and up to F*ing insanity, hating police officers, supporting criminals (early release, early parole, reduced sentences, the new no bail INSANITY nonsense policy of condoning criminality), LI either leads the US or is in the top 5 for every single possible source of draining your income (income tax, prop tax, highest family healthcare plan, highest childcare, highest traffic violation tickets, highest cost of eating out, highest rents, highest toll in the US (verrazano), speed cams, school cams, red light cams, etc... etc... etc...), people always list state income and prop taxes but NY CLEANS UP ON HIDDEN TAXES, the stuff at the end of the phone bill, cable bill, electric bill, etc... and LI just sucks, its cold, gray, miserable, overpopulated, horrible traffic, filled with *******s, has some epic cancer rates (breast cancer, Grumman, etc) and these stats dont even reflect the reality because they dont follow old people who move and get diagnosed in other states (which most people leave), no environment, they just trick you buy installing some trees between neighborhoods and highways, no freedom (you cant just pull over and walk to a beach, ita a $25 fee or you must be a member of some BS town with some BS annual fee, etc).... CORRUPTION, omg CORRUPTION, everywhere!!! Corruption!!!! Its not a right to work state, its all unions/pensions/public service, bunch of cops, teachers, firemen, LIRR, etc... DOZENS OF PEOPLE every year pulling over 200K for PUBLIC SERVICE work. Just look at the salaries for these public service jobs and pensions compared to other states!!! You cant fire them. The unions get together every year, "give us a raise, give us another raise" Give us a raise or your corrupt ass doesnt gets the union members votes, and the cycle of nonsense continues. Then the same people complain when their school tax goes up. Potholes for example, you got the same companies in there getting the state contracts for years and doing crap work, with 5 guys staring at a hole, no heavy roller machines to pack it down right, just packing in asphalt by hand and leaving. So the pot holes open again next winter and back they go having a "job"... Again, its not a right to work state so you cant just fire them and get people in who will do it right. look I can go on and on for days.... unless you are born and raised somewhere outside of long island you wont get it. It all seems "common and normal" to you. Its the worst of the worst. If someone from another state moves to LI they either leave immediately or become like an Orca trapped at seaworld (the fin folds over, they hang at the bottom of the tank, and moan in misery).
Rather than read all of that, the short answer is: liberalism. Then these people put in their 20 years, maxed out the last 2 years for maximum overtime/pensions (what a corrupt process that is anyways), then they immediately leave and continue voting for the same stupid policies in red states til they turn it purple.[/
Dead on. Born and raised in CT, none of this is normal, in fact, it’s the definition of insanity. While CT is being run into the ground by Dems, they don’t have 1/2 the money making schemes that go on here, and somehow manage to have nice roads. Trying to make the best of it while here, but you nailed every single thing!
You were good until the last paragraph when you went sheep and used the L word. Funny, I don't think many L's voted for Kate Murray and the GOP machine for 100+ years but there it is. Our problems are bi-partisan. Libs v cons is some mid 90's talk radio stupidity that keeps people from learning what their true interests are and who might best serve them. Instead they pick a team and go from a free thinker to a kool aid sheep, kind of like your post did.
Good point, must be bipartisan. Everyone is leaving these states (NY, NJ, IL, etc) in droves, because of the weather. I forgot. Which is odd, because if anything, I would think with climate change and all, less and less people would be leaving.
Rather than read all of that, the short answer is: liberalism. Then these people put in their 20 years, maxed out the last 2 years for maximum overtime/pensions (what a corrupt process that is anyways), then they immediately leave and continue voting for the same stupid policies in red states til they turn it purple.[/
Dead on. Born and raised in CT, none of this is normal, in fact, it’s the definition of insanity. While CT is being run into the ground by Dems, they don’t have 1/2 the money making schemes that go on here, and somehow manage to have nice roads. Trying to make the best of it while here, but you nailed every single thing!
Many of the problems you mentioned (high public salaries and insanely generous pensions) were instituted by the Republican machine back in the seventies. Everyone was happy because their neighborhoods were safe and clean, and their garbage was picked up three times a week.
Anyone with a basic understanding of mathematics could understand it would not be sustainable thirty years down the road, but nobody cared at the time.
Now it's time to pay up.
Good point, must be bipartisan. Everyone is leaving these states (NY, NJ, IL, etc) in droves, because of the weather. I forgot. Which is odd, because if anything, I would think with climate change and all, less and less people would be leaving.
Actually, they always leave for the weather. Retirees leave, immigrants replace them. The recent difference is wealthy NYers declaring their 2nd home in snowbird land as their primary residence. NY gets the tax shaft. I never said Cuomo wasn't a moron, but on LI, both teams raise taxes and both get indicted, the GOP with a slight lead on the corruption scorecards.
Actually, they always leave for the weather. Retirees leave, immigrants replace them. The recent difference is wealthy NYers declaring their 2nd home in snowbird land as their primary residence. NY gets the tax shaft. I never said Cuomo wasn't a moron, but on LI, both teams raise taxes and both get indicted, the GOP with a slight lead on the corruption scorecards.
Unfortunately the property owners tax of two state residents will not change. The NY property owners
Will Still pay the full amount of NY property tax. The only tax consideration of dual residents will be an
Apportioned amount of NY State income tax split between 2 states. And NY State tax law states that dual residents who spent 180 days in NY State are NY State residents for tax purposes. And NY State
Is cracking down on dual state residents.
Actually, they always leave for the weather. Retirees leave, immigrants replace them. The recent difference is wealthy NYers declaring their 2nd home in snowbird land as their primary residence. NY gets the tax shaft. I never said Cuomo wasn't a moron, but on LI, both teams raise taxes and both get indicted, the GOP with a slight lead on the corruption scorecards.
I would give you rep pretty much every time you post if it let me.
And they all double dip too. I'm scratching my head why anyone wants to work when they are collecting that pension. Same with Rush Limbaugh - you just got a death sentence and your concern is when you can get back to work? Unreal.
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