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Old 11-17-2020, 04:07 AM
 
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Inflammatory TV coverage and slyly worded press coverage seem to suggest we are at or near record highs in US Covid daily deaths. This suggestion is accomplished by conflating record high tests (and record high positive test results) with record high daily deaths. CDC data flatly contradicts this:
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Old 11-17-2020, 04:47 AM
 
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the cdc says in the last 7 days the avg is 46 people out of 100,000 got covid. So if you do the math for the whole US you get 150,000 people got covid in the US in 7 days. CDC is trying to make it look better then it is . Why not put it as 150k .

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days
 
Old 11-17-2020, 05:27 AM
 
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the cdc says in the last 7 days the avg is 46 people out of 100,000 got covid. So if you do the math for the whole US you get 150,000 people got covid in the US in 7 days. CDC is trying to make it look better then it is . Why not put it as 150k .

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days
Because one of their many metrics you chose to view is a 7-day average per 100,000 for US positive cases.

Not sure about your math but if you click on the very same data box (the click circle is labelled "Count") you can get a total US positive case count for the past 7 days: (1,070, 850). Does that make it seem better or worse?
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Old 11-17-2020, 06:55 AM
 
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Because one of their many metrics you chose to view is a 7-day average per 100,000 for US positive cases.

Not sure about your math but if you click on the very same data box (the click circle is labelled "Count") you can get a total US positive case count for the past 7 days: (1,070, 850). Does that make it seem better or worse?
Don't bother with FACTS. The sheep only believe what the media portrays. Your wasting your time. Let them go hide in their hole.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 07:24 AM
 
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Inflammatory TV coverage and slyly worded press coverage seem to suggest we are at or near record highs in US Covid daily deaths. This suggestion is accomplished by conflating record high tests (and record high positive test results) with record high daily deaths. CDC data flatly contradicts this:
I don't see a contradiction related to deaths. That chart is last updated 10/24. View it in 3 weeks and it will display a steadily increasing count per week from 10/24 on.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 07:48 AM
 
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Inflammatory TV coverage and slyly worded press coverage seem to suggest we are at or near record highs in US Covid daily deaths. This suggestion is accomplished by conflating record high tests (and record high positive test results) with record high daily deaths. CDC data flatly contradicts this:

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I don't see a contradiction related to deaths. That chart is last updated 10/24. View it in 3 weeks and it will display a steadily increasing count per week from 10/24 on.
Record highs in terms of Covid-related deaths for the US? (Record high should not be conflated with 'increasing'.)
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Old 11-17-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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Don't bother with FACTS. The sheep only believe what the media portrays. Your wasting your time. Let them go hide in their hole.
?

The "fact" is literally the same, just presented or framed differently.

46 out of 100,000 cases per day in the last 7 days

is equivalent to

150,000 (rounded) total cases per day in the last 7 days

is equivalent to

1,070,850 total cases from the last 7 days

Comments like these make me regret that Andrew Yang isn't the next President. We really do need #MATH
 
Old 11-17-2020, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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?

The "fact" is literally the same, just presented or framed differently.

46 out of 100,000 cases per day in the last 7 days

is equivalent to

150,000 (rounded) total cases per day in the last 7 days

is equivalent to

1,070,850 total cases from the last 7 days

Comments like these make me regret that Andrew Yang isn't the next President. We really do need #MATH
I'm talking about the death rate percentage to cases. It's on par with the flu. People need to look at the PERCENTAGE of deaths to cases. It not what the media portrays. Stop being sheep.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 08:11 AM
 
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I'm talking about the death rate percentage to cases. It's on par with the flu. People need to look at the PERCENTAGE of deaths to cases. It not what the media portrays. Stop being sheep.
You want to talk about the death rate percentage to cases, let's talk about that then.

What The Media Portrays

246,879 deaths to 11,200,000 cases is about 2.2%. You want to compare that with "the flu"?

The Center for Sheep Control and Indoctrination

The worst recent flu in terms of total deaths was 2017-2018 with 61,000. About 21,000,000 had medical visits (and thus presumably were counted as "cases"). 61,000 deaths to 21,000,000 cases is 0.29%.

2.2/.29 is about 7.59. So Covid-19 is 7-8x worse than the 2017-2018 flu. Is that ermahgerd the sky is falling? No. Is that "on par with the flu"? Also no.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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Your using deaths from the beginning of virus. How many times do I need to tell you, look at death percentage the last 2 mos. It's at flu levels. Stop being ridiculous.
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