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Just over half of those at higher risk of developing a serious illness are ages 65 and older (55.2% or 51.1 million adults); however, the remaining 41.4 million adults ages 18-64 are at risk due to an underlying medical condition.
41.4 million adults below the age of 65 is nothing to just dismiss out of hand.
I agree that places should be ready to start opening up. Not sure the NYC metro area which is the epicenter of covid for the world is quite ready yet. Believe me, I wish it were as I am as tired of this as anyone.
Agreed, we can’t dismiss those people out of hand. But neither can we continue making policy based upon the lowest common denominator.
Many places - probably 40+ states - have already started to open up as of today. It’s possible NYC isn’t ready but how about upstate? How about LI? Could start with a few things and then do more every week.
Agreed, we can’t dismiss those people out of hand. But neither can we continue making policy based upon the lowest common denominator.
Many places - probably 40+ states - have already started to open up as of today. It’s possible NYC isn’t ready but how about upstate? How about LI? Could start with a few things and then do more every week.
I agree with upstate to open right now. LI is a tough call because areas you think would be safe like the East End were contaminated by people leaving the city who had covid.
Some non essential businesses that mirror what the essential box stores do should be able to open following the same safety protocols.
Lesson learned for next wave: lock down the contaminated areas to prevent the spread to clean areas. Why were/are we flying planes in and out of the hot spot?
I agree with upstate to open right now. LI is a tough call because areas you think would be safe like the East End were contaminated by people leaving the city who had covid.
Some non essential businesses that mirror what the essential box stores do should be able to open following the same safety protocols.
Lesson learned for next wave: lock down the contaminated areas to prevent the spread to clean areas. Why were/are we flying planes in and out of the hot spot?
I wonder had China canceled all of its international flights at the same time as they locked down their domestic ones if that would have sent a stronger message. Too late for Monday morning quarterbacking now of course.
I wonder had China canceled all of its international flights at the same time as they locked down their domestic ones if that would have sent a stronger message. Too late for Monday morning quarterbacking now of course.
I think China's denial of the severity of the disease, hiding information from the rest of the world and not preventing people from leaving the hot zone is criminal.
Hopefully this is a wake up call for the rest of the world to treat China like the pariah they are. Stop relying on them to provide our necessary goods, and let's start moving them here and in other areas so if one area gets hit the world's supply doesn't end.
/\ By the time we knew how serious it was given the Chinese lies, the carriers (asymptomatic and symptomatic) were here in NYC and once they were here...well, the rest is history.
(While folks have focused on the screwups of the professional experts at CDC who produced and distributed contaminated tests, there is no doubt even uncontaminated tests in sufficient quantities would not have stopped the arrival and spread given the actions of the Chinese.)
Lesson learned for next wave: lock down the contaminated areas to prevent the spread to clean areas. Why were/are we flying planes in and out of the hot spot?
You mean like when Obama sent his infection control czar and thousands of troops to west africa as soon as the ebola issue became evident? Nipped it THERE as opposed to spreading here. Homeland security 101.
so why not tell us which close family members of yours you would sacrifice to find out .write their names here since you dont mind spinning the wheel
These sorts of snarky non-arguments are better suited for wine moms squabbling on Facebook.
No one here is advocating for reopening everything, everywhere, with no precautions whatsoever, and just rolling with the ensuing deaths. The states that are reopening are doing so according to a phased plan whereby "non-essential" businesses can re-open with limited capacity - they'll only let 25% of capacity into the store, for example, so we'd see lines like we do now at Trader Joe's, Costco, etc. Masks are required to be in public. Store owners must adhere to the rules.
The idea that we are allowed to go to Home Depot and buy lumber, but the gardening center is off limits, is ludicris. Forget all the legal/constitutional arguments, it just doesn't make any sense from a health perspective. I understand that certain things were done out of necessity when we didn't have a lot of information, but it's time to reassess.
Those who are more vulnerable to the virus should still stay home. The rest of us adults can make our own choices, just as we do with innumerable other things in daily life that carry risks. These social distancing/PPE measures were not designed to eliminate the virus - the only thing that will do that is a vaccine, or an effective treatment. That doesn't mean we stop doing them, but we incorporate them into a "new normal" until science figures out how to beat it for good.
This is not some sort of crazy thinking. Earlier generations dealt with disease on a regular basis. It was part of life. Polio, measles, mumps, rubella, tuberculosis, etc. were pandemics during the lifetimes of people that are still walking the earth today. We fought the Revolutionary War during smallpox, the Civil War during typhoid, World War I during Spanish Flu, and World War II during all those other diseases. COVID-19 is markedly less dangerous than most of those, and the whole world grinds to a halt indefinitely?
You mean like when Obama sent his infection control czar and thousands of troops to west africa as soon as the ebola issue became evident? Nipped it THERE as opposed to spreading here. Homeland security 101.
China refused our help and did not allow our scientists to enter.
Unless you propose we invade China, I am not sure what we could have done. Homeland Security 102 don't invade China https://www.thedailybeast.com/china-...th-coronavirus
I agree with upstate to open right now. LI is a tough call because areas you think would be safe like the East End were contaminated by people leaving the city who had covid.
Some non essential businesses that mirror what the essential box stores do should be able to open following the same safety protocols.
Lesson learned for next wave: lock down the contaminated areas to prevent the spread to clean areas. Why were/are we flying planes in and out of the hot spot?
All the city folk that have LI houses are already out here weeks ago. If they didnt get it by now they arent going to from NYC.
Both counties have met are really close in meeting CDC protocols for Phase 1
All the city folk that have LI houses are already out here weeks ago. If they didnt get it by now they arent going to from NYC.
Both counties have met are really close in meeting CDC protocols for Phase 1
We are getting closer to meeting the protocols. I hope it happens soon.
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