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Old 06-12-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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Because white people are less likely to side with a meth head career criminal. Black people people tend to be more forgiving and thinking a person can change.
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Old 06-12-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Don't misconstrue what I said. I am not excusing what the cops did at all. In fact I think it's disgusting what they did. I also don't think The cop should get his pension and I just read online he is. BTW I don't drive south. You need to chill.
I am standing shoulder to shoulder with Lubby. What was done to this man was despicable and should not have been done to anyone or anything regardless of circumstances. However, to Lubby's point, this man is being held up as the next St. Mother Theresa. I too, have a problem with that.

According to Joe Biden, "George Floyd’s Death Had Bigger Global Impact Than MLK’s Assassination". I think that history will certainly have a place for George Floyd. While I have no idea what that will or won't be, but to suggest at this juncture this impact is just hopping on the bandwagon with a statement that only time and history will determine.

He was a man with a checkered past that according to the family was now on a good path but for some reason wound up involved in a police action unfortunately resulting in his death. It was on the news that he had 4 funerals including the last, that involved a horse drawn carriage. I personally believe that for a man/woman to be held in such reverence they need to earn that distinction. He did nothing other than fall victim to a very bad cop.

In my mind this sets a very bad example for those coming behind him. I want for EVERY LIFE to have a purpose and to be treated as you would treat others, nothing more and nothing less.
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Old 06-12-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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I am standing shoulder to shoulder with Lubby. What was done to this man was despicable and should not have been done to anyone or anything regardless of circumstances. However, to Lubby's point, this man is being held up as the next St. Mother Theresa. I too, have a problem with that.

According to Joe Biden, "George Floyd’s Death Had Bigger Global Impact Than MLK’s Assassination". I think that history will certainly have a place for George Floyd. While I have no idea what that will or won't be, but to suggest at this juncture this impact is just hopping on the bandwagon with a statement that only time and history will determine.

He was a man with a checkered past that according to the family was now on a good path but for some reason wound up involved in a police action unfortunately resulting in his death. It was on the news that he had 4 funerals including the last, that involved a horse drawn carriage. I personally believe that for a man/woman to be held in such reverence they need to earn that distinction. He did nothing other than fall victim to a very bad cop.

In my mind this sets a very bad example for those coming behind him. I want for EVERY LIFE to have a purpose and to be treated as you would treat others, nothing more and nothing less.
Link please? I want to see a direct comparison to Mother Theresa in your link.
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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I think the problem is the words used for the funerals. We are here to honor George Floyd. Well, his life really really wasn't honorable in a lot of peoples' minds. He was a deadbeat dad, a career criminal, and a drug addict. Not exactly something to honor.

Now if you said we were going to grieve Mr. Floyd's death, or to mourn his passing that sounds better.


Of course even with his issues, he did not deserve to die that way. He should have died in a way more befitting his history. Like a drug deal done bad or shot while committing a violent crime, not losing his life over a bad bill that probably would have just given him a desk appearance ticket.

JMO, others I am sure will vary
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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Link please? I want to see a direct comparison to Mother Theresa in your link.
Forget Mother Theresa...she’s just a saint....

“Rep. Jackson Lee likened Floyd to the Biblical figures of Jesus and the prophet Isaiah.”

“Family members spoke about Floyd as a "gentle giant”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/ge...day/index.html

(Note, Although not mentioned in the rather lengthy CNN link, he served 5 years in prison for a particularly violent armed robbery and was arrested at least seven other times.)

This is not to suggest he deserved to be murdered by the cop.

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Old 06-12-2020, 05:00 PM
 
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Forget Mother Theresa...she’s just a saint....

“Rep. Jackson Lee likened Floyd to the Biblical figures of Jesus and the prophet Isaiah.”

“Family members spoke about Floyd as a "gentle giant”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/ge...day/index.html

(Note, Although not mentioned in the rather lengthy CNN link, he served 5 years in prison for a particularly violent armed robbery and was arrested at least seven other times.)

This is not to suggest he deserved to be murdered by the cop.
This is literally the first paragraph from your link:

"George Floyd was an "ordinary brother" from Houston's housing projects who "nobody thought much about," which makes his central role in a generational movement that much more powerful, the Rev. Al Sharpton said at his funeral Tuesday."
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Old 06-12-2020, 05:10 PM
 
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This is literally the first paragraph from your link:

"George Floyd was an "ordinary brother" from Houston's housing projects who "nobody thought much about," which makes his central role in a generational movement that much more powerful, the Rev. Al Sharpton said at his funeral Tuesday."
I thought you asked for a direct link comparing him to Mother Theresa...figured you would settle for Jesus. (My general understanding is that Jesus is just about the top in Christian faith.)

“Rep. Jackson Lee likened Floyd to the Biblical figures of Jesus and the prophet Isaiah.”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/ge...day/index.html

(It is also true, if this needs to be written, that not everyone in the lengthy article compares him to Jesus or references him as a gentle giant. Al Sharpton, as you illustrate, is not the one comparing him to Jesus.That would be US Representative Jackson Lee.)

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Old 06-13-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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This is literally the first paragraph from your link:

"George Floyd was an "ordinary brother" from Houston's housing projects who "nobody thought much about," which makes his central role in a generational movement that much more powerful, the Rev. Al Sharpton said at his funeral Tuesday."
If I were a black person, I personally would take offense at the term "ordinary brother". There are many, many, many black men that I used to work with that I would consider as "ordinary men" that don't have rap sheets, drug arrests and have done prison time. It seems to me that statement attempts to legitimize his life and ascent into sainthood. Which brings me to another point, why involve Rev. Sharpton? Is that supposed to legitimize this? It used to be Jesse Jackson, whose wonderful oratory skills could bring a crowd to their feet. Now, Rev. Al, who has somehow also has ascended the ladder to sainthood is the defecto go to spokesperson whenever there is an issue like the Ferguson riots or Eric Garner or George Floyd.

Maybe I am wired differently, (this has nothing to do with the current situation of police brutality), but, if I were married to a cop who was killed in the line of duty, there would be no Mr. Mayor, Mr. Governor, or any other official making a speech or anything. I would not care who insisted it had to be done either, I am adamant that in my mind, unless you are a public official, death and the subsequent funeral should be a personal thing and not a public affair. Certainly there are exceptions, for example, the late Steven McDonald, comes to mind, but that was an entirely different case. Again, JMO.
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Old 06-13-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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I thought you asked for a direct link comparing him to Mother Theresa...figured you would settle for Jesus. (My general understanding is that Jesus is just about the top in Christian faith.)

“Rep. Jackson Lee likened Floyd to the Biblical figures of Jesus and the prophet Isaiah.”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/ge...day/index.html

(It is also true, if this needs to be written, that not everyone in the lengthy article compares him to Jesus or references him as a gentle giant. Al Sharpton, as you illustrate, is not the one comparing him to Jesus.That would be US Representative Jackson Lee.)
I'm not particulary religious so I take his words with a grain of salt. Lightly speaking.
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Old 06-13-2020, 12:33 PM
 
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If I were a black person, I personally would take offense at the term "ordinary brother". There are many, many, many black men that I used to work with that I would consider as "ordinary men" that don't have rap sheets, drug arrests and have done prison time. It seems to me that statement attempts to legitimize his life and ascent into sainthood. Which brings me to another point, why involve Rev. Sharpton? Is that supposed to legitimize this? It used to be Jesse Jackson, whose wonderful oratory skills could bring a crowd to their feet. Now, Rev. Al, who has somehow also has ascended the ladder to sainthood is the defecto go to spokesperson whenever there is an issue like the Ferguson riots or Eric Garner or George Floyd.

Maybe I am wired differently, (this has nothing to do with the current situation of police brutality), but, if I were married to a cop who was killed in the line of duty, there would be no Mr. Mayor, Mr. Governor, or any other official making a speech or anything. I would not care who insisted it had to be done either, I am adamant that in my mind, unless you are a public official, death and the subsequent funeral should be a personal thing and not a public affair. Certainly there are exceptions, for example, the late Steven McDonald, comes to mind, but that was an entirely different case. Again, JMO.
Why not involve a reverend at a funeral? I mean this is just common sense.
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