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Old 11-12-2021, 07:36 AM
 
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I see.
Can't the local government do something about it?
I would think East Hills (village) would be pretty receptive to complaints about things like this as they directly impact QOL.
Secondly, is anyone actually buying and eating things made/peddled by these folks on the streets. I was near the Coliseum recently and saw an illegal selling cut mango at the intersection and I thought to myself surely no one would want to eat that given the lack of any type of sanitary oversight???

I get it...the same people are probably cutting your fruits in Whole Foods, but there is some semblance of quality control there.
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Old 11-12-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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I would think East Hills (village) would be pretty receptive to complaints about things like this as they directly impact QOL.
Secondly, is anyone actually buying and eating things made/peddled by these folks on the streets. I was near the Coliseum recently and saw an illegal selling cut mango at the intersection and I thought to myself surely no one would want to eat that given the lack of any type of sanitary oversight???

I get it...the same people are probably cutting your fruits in Whole Foods, but there is some semblance of quality control there.
Yeah, people are dying all over from cut fruit. Classic ugly-american ignorance. It's fruit. Eat it or don't. Buy it or don't. Ever go camping? We wash it with a water bottle with a hole poked in the cap. Probably better than washing it with our local toxic plume water! Holy snowflakes, batman. Better to just be racist! lmfao.
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Old 11-12-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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I detect a note of sarcasm. But quite seriously, it's a problem when one level of government dumps a problem on another level of government. Let me explain.

Under a Supreme Court decision, Arizona et. al. v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012) the Court, in disallowing State enforcement of immigration law stated:

Thus a state is powerless to exclude illegal immigrants. The problem is that the states that the people wind up in require services and benefits. So if the Federal Government flies them to Long Island, those people become New York's or the localities' problem to deal with, given that almost all of them have no money and few means to obtain employment. From the 1920's on the Federal Government has regulated immigration, at least in theory. In recent years, ideologically driven executive departments have torn gaping holes in the structure of such laws, but significantly not paid for the expenses foisted on other political subdivisions.
Otherwise intelligent post that never mentions the word "labor" in relation to illegal immigration misses the elephant in the room. It's a 2 party strategy worked out in back rooms. Then they agree to sling mud at each other over it for fundraising and votes. NONE, not ONE, will move a bill forward that hurts cheap labor or easy votes. That includes the orange ding dong and his matchstick wall. They WANT them here. They move to gerrymandering and re-districting to solve it, NOT immigration reform. They want to control their votes, not exclude them...and we NEED the labor, not WANT it. It is a main vein of our main st economy and the agribusiness lobby will shoot the congressman that actually does anything about it. It's just another political football to divide and conquer the chumps.
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Old 11-12-2021, 05:12 PM
 
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I would think East Hills (village) would be pretty receptive to complaints about things like this as they directly impact QOL.
Secondly, is anyone actually buying and eating things made/peddled by these folks on the streets. I was near the Coliseum recently and saw an illegal selling cut mango at the intersection and I thought to myself surely no one would want to eat that given the lack of any type of sanitary oversight???

I get it...the same people are probably cutting your fruits in Whole Foods, but there is some semblance of quality control there.
You'd be surprised!

Tourists, transplants, young people, liberal progressives who feel need to "support" these people. This on top of their natural market of those from their own country or background.
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Old 11-12-2021, 07:36 PM
 
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Exit 39 off the LIE. Everyday ladies are trying to sell me fruit coming off the exit ramp. Its Roslyn Heights but I feel like I'm in a 3rd world country. Never saw this before this year. Lets go Brandon.
What do you mean they are everyday ladies? As opposed to what kind of ladies? Surely a doctor knows the difference between "everyday" and "every day".

People by the side of the road selling fruit = 3rd world countries? It happens all the time in Europe, and the fruit is what better than what is available here.

You know what makes me think of a 3rd world country? A place where even the doctors are ignorant and barely literate.
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Old 11-14-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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What do you mean they are everyday ladies? As opposed to what kind of ladies? Surely a doctor knows the difference between "everyday" and "every day".

People by the side of the road selling fruit = 3rd world countries? It happens all the time in Europe, and the fruit is what better than what is available here.

You know what makes me think of a 3rd world country? A place where even the doctors are ignorant and barely literate.
Completely agree.
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Old 11-14-2021, 12:02 PM
 
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They ain't just in Westchester. Good ole welcoming Syosset is one of the drop off points on LI. All those bleeding hearts in Syosset should be more than okay with it! Plenty of room in the Syosset schools, for a few extra kids.
If you're a bilingual teacher, you can name your price! Meanwhile, the dummying down of our schools is in FULL SWING! Up until about two years ago, Georgia high school seniors had to pass a state-wide final exam to receive their high school diploma. Many, despite being SENIORS in high school, couldn't pass the exam. There was widespread criticism that it was too hard to pass (reading, writing, arithmetic), so Georgia did the right thing and CANCELLED the exam from being a requirement for graduation! Say WHAT??? I think other schools are probably doing the same thing! Several months ago, I read an article where a high school kid in Baltimore, was an "honor student" graduate, who missed most of his classes, and had basically a D average! So it's not just Georgia that's passing lazy kids who can barely read and write!
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Old 11-14-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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I lived in North Jersey for several years during the Obama years, and I was always taken aback by how the Italians in the area would constantly brag about how their grandfather or great-grandfather came here from Sicily or Palermo without papers back in the day... The story would continue on about how hard their grandpas worked, and how they chased the American dream and eventually had a good life here..etc.etc..
Even the term WOP when referring to Italians is largely accepted to mean "without papers," further showcasing how so many of them came to this country illegally 60 - 80 years ago....

There were a few Italian guys that I worked with at the time that were always carrying on in this manner. Every time I'd catch these guys during lunch in the breakroom, they were either talking about their Italianess, or these damn illegals. And if they weren't blabbing on about that, the topic would be what a crook Obama was, or that he was a Muslim, a communist, a socialist; he was coming for our guns, the death panels...etc..etc..

Long story short. -- Against my better judgement one day, I get into a bit of a "discussion" with them during lunch. As usual, they're going off about these damn Mexicans and Hondurans.. And I say, "So these south Americans are just like your grandpa Joey who came here decades ago from the old country??"

I'll never forget the expression on their faces. It's as if they never made the connection that many of these south Americans are like the Italians of yesteryear. It goes without saying that they weren't to happy that I compared their grandparents with lowly Mexicans and Hondurans..

I still have one of these guys on my Facebook, and it should come as no surprise that he thinks the election was stolen. His FB is littered with Q'anon madness; trumps going to be reinstated; the election was stolen; Bidens destroying American... ad nauseam...
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Old 11-14-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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If you're a bilingual teacher, you can name your price! Meanwhile, the dummying down of our schools is in FULL SWING! Up until about two years ago, Georgia high school seniors had to pass a state-wide final exam to receive their high school diploma. Many, despite being SENIORS in high school, couldn't pass the exam. There was widespread criticism that it was too hard to pass (reading, writing, arithmetic), so Georgia did the right thing and CANCELLED the exam from being a requirement for graduation! Say WHAT??? I think other schools are probably doing the same thing! Several months ago, I read an article where a high school kid in Baltimore, was an "honor student" graduate, who missed most of his classes, and had basically a D average! So it's not just Georgia that's passing lazy kids who can barely read and write!
How was that the "right thing"? I agree with the thrust of the rest of your post. Everyone deserves a hand-up. That does not mean making the U.S. into a mediocre or dumb country.
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Old 11-14-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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Otherwise intelligent post that never mentions the word "labor" in relation to illegal immigration misses the elephant in the room. It's a 2 party strategy worked out in back rooms. Then they agree to sling mud at each other over it for fundraising and votes. NONE, not ONE, will move a bill forward that hurts cheap labor or easy votes. That includes the orange ding dong and his matchstick wall. They WANT them here. They move to gerrymandering and re-districting to solve it, NOT immigration reform. They want to control their votes, not exclude them...and we NEED the labor, not WANT it. It is a main vein of our main st economy and the agribusiness lobby will shoot the congressman that actually does anything about it. It's just another political football to divide and conquer the chumps.
You're correct, we do NEED the labor for our "main street economy" (aka "growth forever"). But any economic strategy that ends up destroying the country should be questioned, no? And not just because of illegal immigrants.

Orange man was the first person to do anything significant about immigration since we closed the borders in the 1920s. The wall, yeah, not so much, it was mostly behind-the-scenes stuff that his immigration czar, Stephen Miller, did. And it was effective until they installed sundown man to throw the book out the window.
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