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There were democrats that tried to object to the electoral college results for Bush, (both times), and Trump in 2016.
And as was said before the abortion thing is so ridiculous on its face even if Zeldin wins he won’t be able to do a thing to existing abortion law with a (hopefully narrower) democrat majority legislature. Nor is abortion even a main focus to his campaign.
Yes indeed. In 2000, 2004 and 2016 Dems either voted against certification or withheld their vote in protest.
@Goodnight - Its a reach to call Zeldin an "election denier" when all he did was vote against certifying PA/AZ election results because their state election officers modified election processes without involving the state legislatures. Zeldin's vote wasn't historic, without the chuckleheads on Jan. 6 it would not be controversial.
Yes indeed. In 2000, 2004 and 2016 Dems either voted against certification or withheld their vote in protest.
@Goodnight - Its a reach to call Zeldin an "election denier" when all he did was vote against certifying PA/AZ election results because their state election officers modified election processes without involving the state legislatures. Zeldin's vote wasn't historic, without the chuckleheads on Jan. 6 it would not be controversial.
Just proves how full of pudding some of these peoples heads are.
Like robots. Or perhaps parrots. No critical thinking. Just blindly go with whatever they are programmed to believe.
There were democrats that tried to object to the electoral college results for Bush, (both times), and Trump in 2016.
And as was said before the abortion thing is so ridiculous on its face even if Zeldin wins he won’t be able to do a thing to existing abortion law with a (hopefully narrower) democrat majority legislature. Nor is abortion even a main focus to his campaign.
There is always one or 2 congressmen that vote against certification, this was 139 house members and 8 senators.
The abortion doesn't make a difference in NY but it certainly galvanized voters.
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Let's see how that ridiculous thought process holds up for you/your family and friends when someone from Freeport, Uniondale, etc, etc, car jacks you or worse. Oh, and btw, the perp is 100% going to be a Biden supporter. Go figure.
There is always one or 2 congressmen that vote against certification, this was 139 house members and 8 senators.
The abortion doesn't make a difference in NY but it certainly galvanized voters.
Typical fear mongering with a racial tone.
Oh so its ok of "1 or 2" do it as long as they are on the "right" side? Typical (and BTW no there are not always congressmen in every election who challenge certifications, not even close). FYI again you don't know what the heck you are talking about. In all 3 GOP election challenges by democrats 2000, 2004, 2016 the ONLY reason is it never got to the house floor for a full vote. First the person in congress must protest the certification results (which is what happened with all 3 GOP wins), then a member of the senate must concur for it to be a full vote on the floor. In all 3 cases the dems couldn't get a senate member to sign on. You can bet though especially in 2016 if one had, dozens and dozens of dems would have voted against trumps certification in a full floor vote. Same with 2000. If you think any different then you really live in a different reality. In 2020 the protest in congress by some in the GOP got a senator to sign on (i believe it was Hawley) hence the floor vote.
I’m not thrilled with Hochul; I’ve leaned Republican for quite some time. But Zeldin is on the Trump train- I can’t board. Trump’s a bridge too far for me.
I can barely say I’m a republican due to Trump. The man is a self absorbed narcissist that thinks the world revolves around him.
Seriously?
Look at Hochul's track record. In under a year she has made Cuomo look almost good. Pay to play, sweetheart deals, no bid contracts, not releasing test scores (hide the damage Covid policies did to our children), firing nurses and first responders for not getting the covid vax. Let's not forget Bail reform (revolving door justice), less is more releasing criminals out onto the streets, rising violent crime rates, and tying the hands of police. She supports congestion pricing and usurping parental rights. And who can forget her Lt. Gov Brian Benjamin. Birds of a feather.
Zeldin is not Trump. The left is doing whatever it can to tarnish Zeldin and anyone who leans right. The outright lies about Zeldin stopping abortion in NYS should be a clue that the left is flinging poo like chimps in a cage. NO governor --elected or unelected -- can change laws which have been CODIFIED in NYS.
Oh so its ok of "1 or 2" do it as long as they are on the "right" side? Typical (and BTW no there are not always congressmen in every election who challenge certifications, not even close). FYI again you don't know what the heck you are talking about. In all 3 GOP election challenges by democrats 2000, 2004, 2016 the ONLY reason is it never got to the house floor for a full vote. First the person in congress must protest the certification results (which is what happened with all 3 GOP wins), then a member of the senate must concur for it to be a full vote on the floor. In all 3 cases the dems couldn't get a senate member to sign on. You can bet though especially in 2016 if one had, dozens and dozens of dems would have voted against trumps certification in a full floor vote. Same with 2000. If you think any different then you really live in a different reality. In 2020 the protest in congress by some in the GOP got a senator to sign on (i believe it was Hawley) hence the floor vote.
The presidential election in 2000 was decided by 537 votes in Florida so yes there was objections, there were 31 democrats that voted against certification in 2004 over Ohion and 7 in 2016 which was quickly put to rest with no support from any senators. Each was conceded by the democratic candidate well before Jan and not one senator supported the house members.
2020 included senators not only supporting democrats but Cruz and Hawley and several others asking to stop the certification. No other year comes close to 2020, when the other party can't accept the election results it's dangerous to democracy.
Zeldin's dismissal of Trump's role should preclude any voter from backing him.
The presidential election in 2000 was decided by 537 votes in Florida so yes there was objections, there were 31 democrats that voted against certification in 2004 over Ohion and 7 in 2016 which was quickly put to rest with no support from any senators. Each was conceded by the democratic candidate well before Jan and not one senator supported the house members.
2020 included senators not only supporting democrats but Cruz and Hawley and several others asking to stop the certification. No other year comes close to 2020, when the other party can't accept the election results it's dangerous to democracy.
Zeldin's dismissal of Trump's role should preclude any voter from backing him.
I wouldn’t care if a video came out of Zeldin snorting blow off a hookers ass last night.
I still would never vote for Hochul.
Or any Democrat for that matter.
The presidential election in 2000 was decided by 537 votes in Florida so yes there was objections, there were 31 democrats that voted against certification in 2004 over Ohion and 7 in 2016 which was quickly put to rest with no support from any senators. Each was conceded by the democratic candidate well before Jan and not one senator supported the house members.
2020 included senators not only supporting democrats but Cruz and Hawley and several others asking to stop the certification. No other year comes close to 2020, when the other party can't accept the election results it's dangerous to democracy.
Zeldin's dismissal of Trump's role should preclude any voter from backing him.
You are just repeating what I already said. I’m well aware of all above. The dems STILL tried to oppose certification in all 3 elections and had a senator backed them the number of votes opposing certification would have been far higher. You are really really reaching here. What the dems did is no different no matter how you try to twist and justify it in your liberal mind, but it’s typical “it’s ok when we do it!” For the left.
Can’t wait until the filibuster which most dems have been trying to get rid of for months will all of a sudden become the best thing ever! after the GOP retakes congress
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