Downtown Los Angeles, Christmas Day 2017 (Sacramento: motel, attorney, minimum wage)

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I don't know of any city, county or state that devotes resources to investigating shoplifting or bicycle thefts, if you live in such a place you should probably stay there.

Of course you don't you live in Ca

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

Of course you don't you live in Ca

I don't?

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Finper

Cops are not giving out tickets, arresting homeless swinging weapons at people, don't even bother calling them if your a shop owner that's going out of business due to shop lifters. Your bike is stolen or anything else from your house? Your SOL. Cops are worthless in Ca we're on our own here. But oh yea we're not allowed to open carry. And if we actually caught a thief and beat them up the cops would actually do some work and arrest us! It's disgusting what's happening here

Yes. And the result will be more and more gated communities, more private guards, and of course, feudalism, etc. The government falsely assumes its citizens act like Swedes. LOL. Obviously that is not the case and Swedish style law enforcement doesn't even work in Sweden (where there are so many immigrants) let alone in still wild California.

If the government cannot take control, businesses will eventually call in the mob to take care of things.

We all also need C & C.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Yes. And the result will be more and more gated communities, more private guards, and of course, feudalism, etc. The government falsely assumes its citizens act like Swedes. LOL. Obviously that is not the case and Swedish style law enforcement doesn't even work in Sweden (where there are so many immigrants) let alone in still wild California. If the government cannot take control, businesses will eventually call in the mob to take care of things. We all also need C & C.

Sweden is a very safe country, I have relatives there and talk to them frequently. You should stay away from Breitbart and their fear mongering BS

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I don't know of any city, county or state that devotes resources to investigating shoplifting or bicycle thefts, if you live in such a place you should probably stay there.

All LE actually does this...or at least used to before California imbeciles voted in prop 47.

Anyway, let’s get this thread back on topic. Placing blame for the explosion of LA’s homeless squarely where it belongs...on Eric Garcetti.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Unless it's on the sidewalk between 6am and 9pm it's legal in LA, if you don't believe me look it up

There are tents that stay up all day and night, and I know because I drive by them on a regular basis.

[VA All Day]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

There are finite limits to how many cops a jurisdiction can afford and how many jail expansions the public is willing to pay for. And it's real hard to solve societal problems like homelessness by arresting people, providing them with a place to sleep usually works better.

The only thing I see as a short term solution for LA is tent cities with an armed guard at the entrance with a metal detector to avoid having people bring in guns or knives. Once they are inside let them do what they want, provide them with porta potties and fresh drinking water and that's it. Or, you can leave them on the sidewalk and whine about it.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

There are tents that stay up all day and night, and I know because I drive by them on a regular basis.

Ever notice how the people that don't live in L.A are the ones that usually jump on threads as the strongest homeless advocates for this city?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

All LE actually does this...or at least used to before California imbeciles voted in prop 47. Anyway, let’s get this thread back on topic. Placing blame for the explosion of LA’s homeless squarely where it belongs...on Eric Garcetti.

No, the Police did not investigate shoplifting and bicycle thefts before prop 47. And LA had a big homeless problem before Garcetti, I don't particularly like the guy but it's just silly to blame him for the homeless problem.

I don't think there are easy answers to this, and I don't think you can pin it on one person or a single cause. One of the biggest problem is the increase in rent. Between 2001 and 2017 there were 22484 Ellis Act evictions in the LA area. There are a number of articles about it here: https://la.curbed.com/ellis-act

Other issues include a lack of drug/alcohol rehabs & sober living facilities, the difficulties faced in finding a job and housing after being released from jail or prison, and the failure of our mental health system.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

There are tents that stay up all day and night, and I know because I drive by them on a regular basis.

Then call the Police and report them, I don't have any good answers for you. The same thing goes on in Sacramento, Discovery Park has basically become a homeless city and yesterday while driving on 50 I saw two tents set up on the side of the freeway.