Why is rent so high in Kihei now? (Pukalani: job market, income)

[McFrostyJ]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

All of Maui's like that. Except in Wailea and Kapalua they have gold plated uzis. With silencers in the better neighborhoods. It's all due to the cannibals and folks who aren't being observed at night.

Maui. It's a friggin hell hole

Maui can be an extremely scary place!


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[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

All of Maui's like that. Except in Wailea and Kapalua they have gold plated uzis. With silencers in the better neighborhoods. It's all due to the cannibals and folks who aren't being observed at night.

Maui. It's a friggin hell hole

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Do yourself a favor and look at the crime data, over say the past year or two. Filter for assault and rape. Note how many rapes happen in Kahului and to a lesser extent Kihei. It's extremely common, and those are just he reported incidents. So when you hear a scream at night, what do you do? Ignore it and say "It's probably nothing" or do you call the police?

Domestic violence is also very common in Hawaii (and not shown on the map). Considering that a gun in the home is MOST likely to be used by a man to shoot his wife, I would hope that if you hear gunfire in your neighborhood you call the cops.

Life isn't all sunskis and aviator sunglasses Jung, even on Maui. I've noticed there's a certain segment of the population that is completely oblivious, probably on purpose. I bet you didn't hear about the guy who raped a woman, got off because there wasn't enough evidence according to prosecutors, then a few months later imprisoned and raped another woman for two weeks. You know where he found her? Quaint little Pukalani Foodland. And do you remember the homeless camp in Lahaina that they cleared out? In 2010 or 2011 here was a man that was tortured in there for days. It never made the news but locals on the West side knew about it.

[Jungjohann]

I've never implied that life on Maui was all Maitais, sunsets, and never ending happiness without interruption. It's just that you have shown a tendency, from the very beginning, to dwell on the negatives, and exaggerate. Sure there are some terrible happenings on Maui, kidnappings, crystal meth, rape, robbery, homelessness. However, in relation to Houston, I'll take Maui's problems any day of the week.

And whats a 'sunski'?

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

And whats a 'sunski'?

It's a solar powered personal water thrillcraft, the kind you shouldn't try to operate after too many mai tais.

And I'm completely with you on the Maui vs Houston question.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

I've never implied that life on Maui was all Maitais, sunsets, and never ending happiness without interruption. It's just that you have shown a tendency, from the very beginning, to dwell on the negatives, and exaggerate. Sure there are some terrible happenings on Maui, kidnappings, crystal meth, rape, robbery, homelessness. However, in relation to Houston, I'll take Maui's problems any day of the week.

And whats a 'sunski'?

LOL, I meant surfski. I must have been thinking of Sun & Ski Sports.


I'm not dwelling on the negative, the point is that if I live next to a big abandoned lot and I hear something suspicious, I'm going to be responsible for doing something about it myself or calling the police.

The vast majority of people seem to either not care, assume nothing bad ever happens, or just have really bad hearing and observational ability. Last week I heard 3 gun shots here, and I walked up the street to see if anybody else heard. One guy was outside spraying weeds and he said he heard, and it came from up in the neighborhood (not the gulch). But did he call the police? No, I was the only one in the whole of Pukalani who did. I guess it was somebody doing target practice in his yard? I have no idea. But for all I knew, it was yet another potential girlfriend/spouse murder.

Yeah it would be a lot more convenient and less stressful to not care about what happens to other people!


Yes Houston is far far worse which is why I don't live there. It's actually amazing how bad Houston is-- It's one of the world's human trafficking hubs, yet there have been very few arrests. The same goes for Honolulu actually... There was a motel fire in Houston last year in which several firefighters died. But the newspapers never reported that the motel was being used for child prostitution.

[Jungjohann]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

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The vast majority of people seem to either not care, assume nothing bad ever happens, or just have really bad hearing and observational ability.

As someone who's lived here since before you were born, and knows a HELL of a lot of people, THAT'S an exaggeration.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

As someone who's lived here since before you were born, and knows a HELL of a lot of people, THAT'S an exaggeration.

I didn't say here, I mean in general. People just don't give a damn, or they're oblivious.

Explain to me how it is that my neighbor was beating his wife a few weeks ago, and I could hear her screaming from a block away, yet no one else called the police in that case either? Maybe up here in Pukalani it's just some manifestation of rural culture--- You mind your own business and treat domestic violence as a family matter?

[Jungjohann]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

Explain to me how it is that my neighbor was beating his wife a few weeks ago, and I could hear her screaming from a block away, yet no one else called the police in that case either?

That's asking me to accept a certain premise. Folks I know upcountry would call the cops. Without question.

[MauiPartTimer]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

It looks like a potential homeless camp or site for other unsavory activity at night when there's no one paying attention. I don't think I want to live by there.

Whoa! Have you spent any time in this area?

South Maui's beachfront area is about as savory as it gets, and is one of those "vacation paradise" areas that people on this board are always warning people not expect all of Maui to be like. I honestly wouldn't be at all concerned about this at all. there are a few lots in the area that are still undeveloped, like the one just South of Maui Banyan condos, and the comments are usually "I hope that lot is never developed as it might ruin my ocean view."

This is a part of the island that it's in everyone's interest to keep "wonderful" so the tourists keep coming back. Not saying there are no problems (like the racist-local guy in the video at Kalama Park), but you really couldn't pick a more mellow area without finding something in a gated community.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by MauiPartTimer

Whoa! Have you spent any time in this area?

South Maui's beachfront area is about as savory as it gets, and is one of those "vacation paradise" areas that people on this board are always warning people not expect all of Maui to be like. I honestly wouldn't be at all concerned about this at all. there are a few lots in the area that are still undeveloped, like the one just South of Maui Banyan condos, and the comments are usually "I hope that lot is never developed as it might ruin my ocean view."

This is a part of the island that it's in everyone's interest to keep "wonderful" so the tourists keep coming back. Not saying there are no problems (like the racist-local guy in the video at Kalama Park), but you really couldn't pick a more mellow area without finding something in a gated community.

I get what you're saying but personally I'd rather not have to constantly think to myself "Was that noise I heard a couple having sex in a nearby condo or was it someone getting raped in the overgrown unlit lot next door that no one patrols at night?"

You might think that's unlikely but it's not-- Look around the area on that interactive crime map I posted!

BTW I should also note that part of the fence has been torn down, so obviously people do go back there. I wonder why they just stopped developing it. It can't be cheap to hold on to a piece of property like that for years and years.