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Old 05-21-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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BTW
Nahuas are descendants of the original Aztecs.
They might have been federated with Aztecs, but no Aztecs as they were exterminated.

Not by the Spanish, but by the 150-200 tribes allied with Cortez.

 
Old 05-22-2016, 09:46 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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i was more mesmerized by her beauty and firm ass... but it got me thinking about Mexican genes.
LOL dude.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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On YouTube postings of DNA results many people of Spanish ancestry in the New World have a good amount of Italian / Greek DNA markers (often 10%), which seems to indicate that some of their ancestors were Romans who settled in Spain. Quite a few also have some Sephardic Jewish DNA. Seems like the Spanish who settled the New World were an elite group.


Re Native American DNA... it's is still difficult to separate out Aztec vs Mayan etc. It takes a long time for enough mutations to occur in the DNA. In fact some people's Native American DNA still comes out as East Asian or Polynesian.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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Seems like the Spanish who settled the New World were an elite group.
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On the contrary: they were mostly the segundones whose older siblings were set to receive all of their parents' inheritance, so they were willing to take on a severe risk and cross the ocean and try their luck in a very far away and exotic land.

Another way to think of it: why would the land-owning elite simply up and move away from their homeland, their riches, their families, their churches, in short why would they sever themselves from their community? They had no reason to do that at all.
 
Old 05-26-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: CDMX
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not sure..
but some Mexicans look Asian..
if i didn't know any better, i would've thought they were Chinese.

Some look European.. guess from the Spaniards.

Some look mixed in between.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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not sure..
but some Mexicans look Asian..
if i didn't know any better, i would've thought they were Chinese.

Some look European.. guess from the Spaniards.

Some look mixed in between.
Maybe is because Filipinas was part of the New Spain.

Also immigration from China to Mexico has been constant since half a century.

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Mexicans can be black, white, mixed race, asian, etc. That's the great thing about Mexico this is a very diverse country, but unlike USA people are not afraid to mix with other races.

Reductionist vision of the Americans is that Mexicans are indigenous 95% which is incorrect.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Maybe is because Filipinas was part of the New Spain.

Also immigration from China to Mexico has been constant since half a century.

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Mexicans can be black, white, mixed race, asian, etc. That's the great thing about Mexico this is a very diverse country, but unlike USA people are not afraid to mix with other races.

Reductionist vision of the Americans is that Mexicans are indigenous 95% which is incorrect.
Señor chip, your statement about people in the US and their fear of mixing races is a huge generalization and it is a very inaccurate representation of many people's beliefs and actions in the US. There are some in the US that DO, indeed, have such fears, but to make that kind of blanket statement is just not fair or accurate at all.

The Philippines were part of the Spanish Empire, nominally (Spain didn't really exercise much control), but the islands were not part of Nueva España. Furthermore, the so called "Asian appearance" of some Mexicans is not due in any significant measure to the presence of people from the Philippines in Mexico, but rather the great migration of Asian peoples across the Bearing Straight many, many years ago. The distant ancestors of the indigenous peoples of the Americas migrated (slowly) from Asia.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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Señor chip, your statement about people in the US and their fear of mixing races is a huge generalization and it is a very inaccurate representation of many people's beliefs and actions in the US. There are some in the US that DO, indeed, have such fears, but to make that kind of blanket statement is just not fair or accurate at all.
Is not. People in USA live segregated by race in almost all the cities.


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The Philippines were part of the Spanish Empire, nominally (Spain didn't really exercise much control), but the islands were not part of Nueva España.
Yes, they were.

The first of four viceroyalties Spain created in the Americas, it comprised Mexico, Central America, much of the Southwestern and Central United States, the Spanish West Indies, Spanish Florida, and eventually, the Philippines and other Pacific islands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Spain

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Furthermore, the so called "Asian appearance" of some Mexicans is not due in any significant measure to the presence of people from the Philippines in Mexico, but rather the great migration of Asian peoples across the Bearing Straight many, many years ago. The distant ancestors of the indigenous peoples of the Americas migrated (slowly) from Asia.
Not.

Chinese immigration to Mexico began during the colonial era and has continued to the present day. However, the largest number of migrants to Mexico have arrived during two waves; the first spanning from the 1880s to the 1940s and another, reinvigorated wave of migrants arriving since the early 21st century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...tion_to_Mexico
 
Old 05-27-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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Is not. People in USA live segregated by race in almost all the cities.
True, but that doesn't make your blanket statements any more true.

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Yes, they were.

The first of four viceroyalties Spain created in the Americas, it comprised Mexico, Central America, much of the Southwestern and Central United States, the Spanish West Indies, Spanish Florida, and eventually, the Philippines and other Pacific islands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Spain
My mistake here; the Philippines were, indeed, a part of the vice royalty, but the Spanish Empire was (obviously) the sovereign, not New Spain, which is what I thought you were implying.

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Not.

Chinese immigration to Mexico began during the colonial era and has continued to the present day. However, the largest number of migrants to Mexico have arrived during two waves; the first spanning from the 1880s to the 1940s and another, reinvigorated wave of migrants arriving since the early 21st century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...tion_to_Mexico
You sound like Borat..... NOT. Haha... Sure, there's been immigration from China since the 1500s, but the numbers are small, and especially so from the Philippines. The largest groups of Chinese came in connection with the construction of the railroads. But none of this has much to do with the major source of shared genome of many Mexicans with Asians.
 
Old 05-27-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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Some Mexicans look Asian because their ancestors like all Native Americans migrated from Asia thousands of years ago as someone also stated. If you look at pure Native Americans from Alaska to South America, they look Asian. It's not that hard to figure out.
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